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Old 05-27-2011, 09:36 PM    (permalink
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What collusion charges? They were free agents.
Pat Riley know that he was going to get those 3 and that he had to clear the salary's to fit everyone under the cap. That is Collusion.
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Meh. There were nights when Pippen scored more than Jordan too.

Lebron is Wade's wingman.
Yeah but Jordan was the better player like LeBron is better than Wade.
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What does that have to do with anything? Lebron got sign and traded to Miami whats your point?
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Pat Riley know that he was going to get those 3 and that he had to clear the salary's to fit everyone under the cap. That is Collusion.
Is that why he came to beg LeBron to sign to with Heat?
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What does that have to do with anything? Lebron got sign and traded to Miami whats your point?
You can get a Max contract through sign and trade.
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Is that why he came to beg LeBron to sign to with Heat?
He begged? how do you know he begged him? You got the tape? No I didnt think so you deny all you want but all 3 of them knew they were going to sign with Miami before FA even started.
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Hallow Trophies.

If MJ joined Magic and Malone on a team, they probably wouldn't have ever lost a game.
MJ did not need to join a good team because he had a good team with good players around him. Don;'t mention Mo Williams as good player please.
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You can get a Max contract through sign and trade.
Ya and what does that prove? Nothing at all if he got sign and traded to NY for the same salary he took in Miami what does that prove? Nothing.
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He begged? how do you know he begged him? You got the tape? No I didnt think so you deny all you want but all 3 of them knew they were going to sign with Miami before FA even started.
He went to Cleveland to convince LeBron to sign with the Heat. Bosh, Wade and LeBron might have had the idea of playing together but I doubt Riley did until later on in free agency.
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Ya and what does that prove? Nothing at all if he got sign and traded to NY for the same salary he took in Miami what does that prove? Nothing.
He would of got more in NY.
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He went to Cleveland to convince LeBron to sign with the Heat. Bosh, Wade and LeBron might have had the idea of playing together but I doubt Riley did until later on in free agency.
I call 100% BS he know going in that they had it planned. That is why Miami got 2 meetings with Lebron and everyone else only got one.
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He would of got more in NY.
How would he get more? Endorsements? most of his endorsements are from big nation wide company's anyway.
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Anyways I hope and think the Mavs will win these series and here's my reason why... so far a lot of the Heat success in these playoffs have been predicated on Boston and Chicago choking away leads in the fourth quarter and subsequently the Heat taking full advantage (18-3 run to close out the game?!?!?!) That won't work against Dallas because I have a hard time believing the offense will stall with the most clutch and best shooter in the game on the floor. Dirk doesn't crumble during these moments.

Take for example game 5 between Dallas and Oklahoma City. Every time Oklahoma City was poised to make a run, getting a 2 second transition bucket, Dallas found a way to answer. I watched the game and it looked like Dallas was getting outplayed and outhustled yet the spread never dipped, Dallas hung in there until it was time to take over then as Mike Breen would say BANGGGGG! Dirk takes the lead with a dagger.

But that's not to say Miami doesn't have some extra gear that makes them impossible to slow down.

Ok that was just my food for thought. we can go back to the Lebron bashing now.
yeah your right those Miami Heat are so lucky right now if the Mavs don't play perfect it was really them losing rather than Miami winning.

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How would he get more? Endorsements? most of his endorsements are from big nation wide company's anyway.
He took less with the Heat and he would of made way more money in endorsements I forget how much the NBC money guy said he would of made if he signed with the Knicks. Also the knicks said he could of made over billion dollars.
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Lebron does not crumble in the clutch? Oh really now?
Watch the Magic series from 2 years ago? the Boston series in Cleveland when he scored whay 28 straight points? yeah big chocker.
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He took less with the Heat and he would of made way more money in endorsements I forget how mention the NBC money guy said. Also the knicks said he could of made over billion dollars.
Ya if he bought stock in MSG but that would have technically been illegal and against NBA rules.
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Watch the Magic series from 2 years ago? the Boston series in Cleveland when he scored whay 28 straight points? yeah big chocker.
So Lebron never missed a shot in the clutch. Never failed in the clutch in his NBA career. Come on Complex I know you want to defend Lebron but I will turn this into the Lebron brick thread if I really have to. I don't want to but I will.
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Nah. There's a difference between the Celtics trading for KG and Allen and making it happen the right way versus LBJ, Wade and Bosh deciding on joining up.

Ring chasers always get hallowed rings. That's the way life is.
What was LeBron thinking signing with a good team, how could he? does he not know that it is against D-unit code of eithics
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So Lebron never missed a shot in the clutch. Never failed in the clutch in his NBA career. Come on Complex I know you want to defend Lebron but I will turn this into the Lebron brick thread if I really have to. I don't want to but I will.
I never said he did not miss a GW shot,you said he was chocker which he is not. I seen him miss GW shots like Kobe,MJ,Bird and every other great player.
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I never said he did not miss you said he was chocker which he is not. I see him miss GW shots like Kobe,MJ,Bird and every other great player.
I didn't say he was a choker I used sarcasm responding to a statment of saying that Lebron never crumbles.
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I'm just interested in how old some of you are who will even put Bron's name in the same sentence as MJ as this point in his career. I wonder how many actually remember him. I was born in 83 so yeah I was already a hoops fanatic in MJ's prime. It's kind of like young kids today who will say Usher is better than Michael Jackson.
Lol I am glad you made that comparison STRIP. One of my boys claims that Chris Brown is the closest thing to Michael but I have told him time & time again it's Usher by a mile but there will NEVER be another Michael Jackson.
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Well I'm done arguing for Lebron got a warning meh :/
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this is absurd. I can't believe people actually think Lebron is on MJ's level. It's unreal. talent wise? yea, they're close, there's really no denying that, but MJ was the face of the sport. MJ was one of the best defenders in his day, and maybe all time. And yes, MJ had talent around him, but he didn't leave to join up with 2 others stars.

and anyone thinking the Heat are Lebron's team and not Wade's are crazy. That's wade's team. Wade's city. Lebron left to join in Wade's city. Lebron's image will be tainted because he went to not join one player, but 2 bondafide stars. And don't give me the Bosh isn't a star crap. I hate that doucher with a passion, but he's one helluva talent and an unreal 3rd option on a team.
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yeah your right those Miami Heat are so lucky right now if the Mavs don't play perfect it was really them losing rather than Miami winning.
Miami never wins. They get lucky, the refs give them in the game, or the refs keep them in a game even tho the other team is up 12 with 3 minutes to go, which is soooooooooo in the game. I mean its got nothing to do with the fact they have 2 of the top 5 best players in the NBA.
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Miami never wins. They get lucky, the refs give them in the game, or the refs keep them in a game even tho the other team is up 12 with 3 minutes to go, which is soooooooooo in the game. I mean its got nothing to do with the fact they have 2 of the top 5 best players in the NBA.
2 in the top 5? who's the 2nd?

Deron Williams
Anthony Morrow
Kris Humphries
Hamady N'Diaye
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
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