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Old 03-30-2007, 08:14 PM    (permalink
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Default Sirius Radio Speculates Turner to the Bills

Like I said its just speculation but its a slow part of the year. With the Bills trading McGahee, The Bills might turn to the trade market and try to acquire Michael Turner. They speculated the Bills might switch first rounders with them or give them a 2nd rounder and future pick for the rights to Turner.

What do you guys think and do you possibly see it happening? Its pretty obvious A.J Smith isn't going to keep Turner and get nothing for him next year. It would also make sense as Smith used to work for the Bills
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BUF will be better off keeping their picks and draft Lynch or AD if he slips to 12.
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I hope they do it becuase it would open the door for Lynch to go to Green Bay :)
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Any team that trades for Turner has to sign him to a long-term extension, because he's an unrestricted free agent after 2007.

As someone who wouldn't offer an extension (given the current market price) until I could see him carry the ball for my team, I'm not too keen on the above as you can imagine. In fact, I'd likely look towards drafting a rookie instead - specifically Antonio Pittman, who I am personally big on (1st round talent imo).
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A big reason why they traded McGahee was because he was going to be FA and they would have to give him a new contract. Why would they trade for a guy in the same situation
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I think it's a better possibility that he stays than leaves
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A big reason why they traded McGahee was because he was going to be FA and they would have to give him a new contract. Why would they trade for a guy in the same situation
Turner and McGahee might both be FA next year, but McGahee sucked when he ran the ball, whereas Turner did not.
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Turner and McGahee might both be FA next year, but McGahee sucked when he ran the ball, whereas Turner did not.
But Tuner was in San Diego where as McGahee was in Buffalo.
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A big reason why they traded McGahee was because he was going to be FA and they would have to give him a new contract. Why would they trade for a guy in the same situation
I think the main reason they dealt McGahee wasn't because of the cost of the new contract, but rather that they didn't think the talent justified the cost, and McGahee was making a stink about the situation.

As for this rumor, if I'm Buffalo and I can get Turner by swapping first round picks, I take that chance. I still believe that RB is their biggest need, and this gives them a 25 year old RB that has good upside. Granted, their are risks, but there are risks with drafting a player as well. This lets them still have 4 picks in day 1. It's not certain that Patrick Willis will necessarily be there at 12, and WR value at 12 and late round 1 isn't that far off.

It seems like San Diego is targeting someone early. Guess here is safety, as it was questionable if someone was going to be there late round 1. Specifically, in that range, it'd probably be Reggie Nelson.
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But Tuner was in San Diego where as McGahee was in Buffalo.
Yeah his numbers are obvious inflated and you don't know how productive he'd be in Buffalo, but the Bills do know how McGahee played and that he was clearly not worth what the Ravens paid him.
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Turner ran behind a better OL against tired defenses, whereas McGahee did not.
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A big reason why they traded McGahee was because he was going to be FA and they would have to give him a new contract. Why would they trade for a guy in the same situation
You would have to think that the contract for Turner would be cheaper than what Willis would have demanded being as Turner is less proven than Willis and that a requirement for a trade would be that Turner would have a new contract the Bills would agree on before the trade.
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Im a huge Bills fan and there has been a ton of specualtion about Turner lately, and frankly I hate it. He has looked amazing when he has played, but he has also played against defenses that had to deal with LT all day. If we swap first rounders with them then we miss out on Patrick Willis and Paul Posluzny which would kill me. If they would take a 2nd straight up Id be ok with it, but I dont see how he is worth swapping a 1st. If we dont trade for him then we would have a shot at this combo Wills or Poz, and Pittman. The only thing I can see them doing if we swap 1st rounder is drafting Beason later in the round. I guess they have to decide if they want Turner/Beason or Posluzny(Willis)/Pittman.
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Side point, but I think there's it's 50/50 between Beason and Posluszny as to who goes ahead. There's a chance that both are gone. As of now, it seems that Timmons is the 4th horse ... but he could be an extremely intriguing option at 30 for the Bills if they do deal down.
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Why would you risk your 1st or 2nd round pick on a Michael Turner when you could easily draft a Marshawn Lynch, Kenny Irons, or a Tony Hunt. All this speculation about Turner is getting out of control not to mention for what Schaub got in a trade I'm sure the Chargers might have greater expectations for what they will want for him. Personally I rather draft a Kenny Irons in the 2nd and get the more of impact player with the 12th pick.
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Why would you risk your 1st or 2nd round pick on a Michael Turner when you could easily draft a Marshawn Lynch, Kenny Irons, or a Tony Hunt. All this speculation about Turner is getting out of control not to mention for what Schaub got in a trade I'm sure the Chargers might have greater expectations for what they will want for him. Personally I rather draft a Kenny Irons in the 2nd and get the more of impact player with the 12th pick.
Although I hate both Irons and Hunt, I agree with you about not giving up or swapping a 1st for Turner. I mean we got two thirds for Mcgahee and he has had two 1,000 yard seasons, what has Turner really done?
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Why would you risk your 1st or 2nd round pick on a Michael Turner when you could easily draft a Marshawn Lynch, Kenny Irons, or a Tony Hunt. All this speculation about Turner is getting out of control not to mention for what Schaub got in a trade I'm sure the Chargers might have greater expectations for what they will want for him. Personally I rather draft a Kenny Irons in the 2nd and get the more of impact player with the 12th pick.
Falcons got mid-first value for Schaub. I think, comparatively, late first/early 2nd value for Turner would be fine in regards to expectations.
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I don't really see this as a risk at all. Turner has all the great tools to be a successfuly RB, he just needs his own franchise. Swapping first-rounders is a cheap price, and if it happens I can't wait to draft him in fantasy!
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Although I hate both Irons and Hunt, I agree with you about not giving up or swapping a 1st for Turner. I mean we got two thirds for Mcgahee and he has had two 1,000 yard seasons, what has Turner really done?
Turner has been an excellent running back. Give him a chance as a starter and I could easily see him get 1400+ yards
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Me either. For the points already made. In all honesty what is really known about Turner that makes him worthy of trading down that many slots ?
He's only shown that he can run very well against worn down defenses...not a feat, that I believe couldn't be handled by 1/2 of the
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Taking an ILB who could start for 8-10 years makes way more
sense than taking a RB who could start for 4-8.
Plus Kenny Irons, Michael Bush, Antonio Pittman....there are alot
of 2nd and 3rd down RB's that could be as serviceable as Lynch would be
(I still see Peterson going top 10)
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