Fantasy Football Discussion Thread - Page 2

gpngc · 08-02-2011, 04:06 PM

Maclin is more valuable. Stop trying to trade Maclin.

Shane P. Hallam · 08-02-2011, 04:13 PM

Well, Maclin is ill too, so I wouldn't worry about it much.

sbh15 · 08-02-2011, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

Maclin is more valuable. Stop trying to trade Maclin.

I didn't offer Maclin, but that's who he wants. I don't see how Maclin is more valuable when Gates put up only 20 less points in 6 less games last season.

Mr. Goosemahn · 08-02-2011, 04:25 PM

Have you guys heard about anyone who's been doing well so far in camp right now?

That's how Mike Williams started last year and he was great.

gpngc · 08-02-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sbh15

I didn't offer Maclin, but that's who he wants. I don't see how Maclin is more valuable when Gates put up only 20 less points in 6 less games last season.

Gates will eventually slow down. It's inevitable. and as you mentioned, he's an injury risk coming off a season in which he missed time. Maclin, on the other hand, plays a very pass-friendly schedule and still has upside.

sbh15 · 08-02-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

Gates will eventually slow down. It's inevitable. and as you mentioned, he's an injury risk coming off a season in which he missed time. Maclin, on the other hand, plays a very pass-friendly schedule and still has upside.

how is it inevitable? the guy hasn't slowed down since he broke out and never missed more than one game in a season until last year. i love gates and i want him badly, but don't think i'm going to give maclin away. i'm actually pretty torn.

gpngc · 08-02-2011, 04:41 PM

Because it is scientifically proven that players break down as they age, which adversely affects performance. One sign of this phenomenon is injuries, and Gates missed 6 games last year.

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The concern here is that this kind of injury can't truly be fixed -- Gates didn't have surgery this offseason -- it can only be maintained.

One of these years Gates will be drafted much higher than he should because his production will decline because of age. This is a fact. It may not be this year but there's a chance it will.

sbh15 · 08-02-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

Because it is scientifically proven that players break down as they age, which adversely affects performance. One sign of this phenomenon is injuries, and Gates missed 6 games last year.

One of these years Gates will be drafted much higher than he should because his production will decline because of age. This is a fact. It may not be this year but there's a chance it will.

i ended up declining the offer. the more i think about it, the more i think maclin is going to overtake jackson in production. plus maclin is just 23 and already has a 10 td season under his belt.

right now my keepers are:
freeman
schaub
maclin
harvin
winslow/deangelo williams/jon stewart

it's a 16 team league, ppr, and points for return yardage. also there is a qb spot and an op spot, where you can play any offensive player (hence my keeping 2 qbs).

FlyingElvis · 08-03-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Thirty

will bradshaw get close to last years numbers now that we know he re-signed in NY? his adp right now seems pretty good at 4.03 for a 10 team league.

He should produce near last years level. That offense is getting better each year and Bradshaw is a great fit for it.

That ADP will probably take a big jump now that he's signed. The lockout made ADP a useless figure, I think. I'm curious to see how/if sites will adjust for that since I expect DWill / Bradshaw / Kolb and some others to skyrocket now that their respective situations are clear.

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Originally Posted by sbh15

how concerned should i be about gates being on the PUP list? i got offered a trade involving him for maclin+a pick. is the trade worth doing? same league i described earlier

PUP list doesn't concern me as much as the change in situation. Gates numbers were inflated with the lack of solid run support early in the year and the lack of VJax to cut into his numbers. I'd rather have Maclin, and would keep DWill if your last line was a choice between Winslow / DWill / JStew. Winslow is just a guy and the resigning of DWill speaks volumes about JStew.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

Have you guys heard about anyone who's been doing well so far in camp right now?

That's how Mike Williams started last year and he was great.

Not yet. The news is dominated by the FA frenzy right now. Though the lack of conditioning of Ryan Matthews is enough for me to call Tolbert a stud sleeper at this point. Let some other chump take Matthews in round 3 and then snag Tolbert in 11 for much better numbers.

sbh15 · 08-03-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingElvis

PUP list doesn't concern me as much as the change in situation. Gates numbers were inflated with the lack of solid run support early in the year and the lack of VJax to cut into his numbers. I'd rather have Maclin, and would keep DWill if your last line was a choice between Winslow / DWill / JStew. Winslow is just a guy and the resigning of DWill speaks volumes about JStew.

yeah, i pretty much agree with that. ended up holding on to maclin. i also felt like keeping one of stewart or williams is stupid without the other, so i offered them to a guy who's best keeper is david garrard (lol) for the 1st overall pick in the keeper draft... he accepted. i'm keeping winslow now, but i'm fine with that. i think he's poised for a huge year if he stays healthy and i like having one of freeman's top targets. i have picks 1 and 4 in the first round, both of which i can use to get a rb.

FlyingElvis · 08-03-2011, 12:30 PM

You trade rapin' bastard, you!

lol. Good move. DWill / JStew are such a headache to own. Personally, I like DWill to be solid this year, but that combo for a 1st round pick is an easy choice.

RufusMcDaniel · 08-03-2011, 03:55 PM

Alright, I really love this draft, am I crazy?

10 teams

QB: Brees
RB: AP, Forte, Bradshaw, Addai
WR: V. Jackson, Collie, Chad Johnson, Jordy, Breaston
TE: Marcedes, Jimmy Graham
DEF: Chargers, Saints
K: Henery

Gay Ork Wang · 08-03-2011, 04:26 PM

Im not too crazy about your WRs

Splat · 08-04-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat

Just started a 10 team league on Yahoo if anyone is interested playing let me know.

Still need some people to join.

http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/

League ID# 307567

League Name: DCD

Password: draftcountdown

Draft time Sat Sep 3 6:00pm CDT.

DoughBoy · 08-07-2011, 09:22 PM

I ******* hate getting the first pick in the draft. always prefered somewhere in the 4- 8 range.

Splat · 08-08-2011, 09:22 AM

Still need 1 more player in my 10 team league if anyone is interested link under sig.

SuperMcGee · 08-08-2011, 01:12 PM

Took the plunge with Romo as my QB in my keeper league. Brady, Rivers, Brees, Rodgers, and Vick were all kept and Manning was out of price range, so I'm feeling okay with it. He didn't cost too much and I'll have money to hopefully nab 2 of Fitz, Wayne, Bowe, Colston, and Marshall to round out my WR core with Roddy White. Could also try to grab Finley for around what I got him last year. Could be a good year, but I need Charles to get in the endzone.

Pat Sims 90 · 08-08-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat

Still need 1 more player in my 10 team league if anyone is interested link under sig.

I filled the last spot since i only had 1 Money Team on Yahoo and it will be easy to keep track of 2 teams.

Splat · 08-08-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat Sims 90

I filled the last spot since i only had 1 Money Team on Yahoo and it will be easy to keep track of 2 teams.

K, thanks.

The_Dude · 08-08-2011, 08:49 PM

Ok, i am 3 picks away from my pick at 2.01 in my dynasty rookies draft.

I traded up for leshoure about 3 hours before he blew out his achilles.... boo!

Here is who is still available at this point:

Helu
Baldwin
Cobb
Hankerson
Rodgers
Young
All Qbs except Newton
Vincent Brown
and others......

My roster:

Brady
Cutler

Greene
S Jackson
Charles
M Bush
F Jackson
Leshoure
B Jackson

Garcon
James Jones
Lafell
Maclin
A Roberts
Sims-Walker
D Thomas
Wayne

Alright, where should i go? This pick is mostly for depth/future help.

I'm thinking Cobb or a qb (i'm a vikes fan, so i may be a sucker for Ponder)

+ rep for all good suggestions

thanks

FlyingElvis · 08-09-2011, 09:47 AM

Probably already done, but I'd say Cobb, too.

Your WRs are thin and he's the solid play with so many QBs still on the board. Driver has one foot in the grave, Jones is gone and Jordy is good but not great.

Shane P. Hallam · 08-09-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingElvis

Probably already done, but I'd say Cobb, too.

Your WRs are thin and he's the solid play with so many QBs still on the board. Driver has one foot in the grave, Jones is gone and Jordy is good but not great.

Jones is still on the team, he was resigned.

The_Dude · 08-09-2011, 01:18 PM

i was thinking the same things about jones.

i still have about 12 hour to make the pick.

Any other suggestions?

FlyingElvis · 08-09-2011, 01:32 PM

Damn . . . gotta shake the rust off . . .

lol

Still, I'd take Cobb. I love me some Hankerson, too. But Green Bay has the known commodity with a young stud QB. Plus, even with Jones signed ;) Jordy is in the final year of his contract.

That roster really needs WRs added.

sbh15 · 08-09-2011, 01:58 PM

looking at your roster, i'd probably pick a receiver. i think hankerson would be the best of those options because the skins receiving corps is just awful. the problem is, their qb is, too. i don't trust cobb to really do much for quite a while because green bay just has so many targets as it is. if you want to take a sleeper, from what i gather, denarius moore has been tearing up raiders camp.