Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > Draft Countdown Forums > Pro Football

Pro Football Discuss professional football.

View Poll Results: Who has a better chance to resurrect their career?
Mike Williams 57 48.72%
Troy Williamson 60 51.28%
Voters: 117. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-31-2007, 04:37 PM    (permalink
soybean
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: anaheim - home of the...ducks?
Posts: 9,998
Reputation: 307973
soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.soybean is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default Mike Williams vs. Troy Williamson

Who has a better chance to resurrect their career?

Also, who would you rather want on your team fat ass or stone hands?
soybean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 04:45 PM    (permalink
A Perfect Score
Resident Alcoholic
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 14,049
Reputation: 2256192
A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.A Perfect Score is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

im gunna go with mike williams, just because i think with the proper coaching staff he could be moved to TE and used as an excellent underneath option. He was way more dominant in college then williamson, who was raw out of college and is still raw IMO. Id take williams, due to his college career and potential to succeed as a TE with proper motivation
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn View Post
The APS is strong in this one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by killxswitch View Post
Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.
A Perfect Score is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 04:48 PM    (permalink
bearsfan_51
The Professor (Hall of Famer)
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 36,296
Reputation: 2341466
bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Well I think both are terrible, but I have no need for somebody that doesn't even try so I'm taking Williamson.
__________________


Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.
bearsfan_51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 04:50 PM    (permalink
bearsfan_51
The Professor (Hall of Famer)
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 36,296
Reputation: 2341466
bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bearsfan_51 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Not to mention that Williamson has at least done something. Williams has basically ceased to exist. He's behind Josh McCown on the depth chart for god's sake.
__________________


Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.
bearsfan_51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 04:56 PM    (permalink
255979119
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Eh?
Posts: 1,128
Reputation: 204
255979119 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

A hard working bust or a lazy bust, i'd go with the hard worker.
255979119 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:01 PM    (permalink
princefielder28
Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Green Bay, WI
Posts: 27,029
Reputation: 1729895
princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.princefielder28 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Williamson due to his athletic ability
__________________


Follow me on Twitter! http://twitter.com/#!/aMo_Captain
princefielder28 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:06 PM    (permalink
cardsalltheway
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Naptown
Posts: 1,401
Reputation: 652
cardsalltheway is a cocksman.cardsalltheway is a cocksman.cardsalltheway is a cocksman.
Default

I think Williamson could potentially break out this year if Jackson continues to develop. I think it's too early to call him a bust.
__________________

Designs by D-Unit

ILEMTPKC - I Love Eli Manning <The Patriots Killer> Club
cardsalltheway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:07 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 29,180
Reputation: 4191549
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Willliamson has one last year for redemption. Its been what, 2 years?

I think that he deserves one more year before he's absolutely written off. Right now Id categorize him as a bust, but its not a massive bust until we see what he does this season.

I still think Minny shouldve went after Schaub. I don't know if Tarvis Jackson is the answer at qb.
__________________
bigbluedefense is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:07 PM    (permalink
BuckNaked
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mali-BOOTAY
Posts: 10,142
Reputation: 91740
BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BuckNaked is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

How is this even a question. Although, Williamson hasn't played all too great, he has still played infinitely better than Mike Williams. Lets not forget he has much more potential as well.
BuckNaked is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:08 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 29,180
Reputation: 4191549
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Mike Williams is one cheeseburger away from being a TE.
__________________
bigbluedefense is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:10 PM    (permalink
Splat
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.
Posts: 20,575
Reputation: 1999224
Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Splat is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Troy Williamson for sure.
__________________
Splat is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:13 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 29,180
Reputation: 4191549
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

One of the big misconceptions in the NFL is that a WR will give you immediate impact. Most rookie WRs have average rookie years. Its uncommon to see great impact from a WR his rookie year. Colston, Randy Moss, these guys are the exception, not the rule.

Usually, WRs contribution improves greatly his sophomore year, but sometimes it takes a little longer for some guys. Troy Williamson, while he's been a major disappointment thus far, could be an example of this. Im willing to give him one last year to prove he can hold onto the ball. If he can just catch the damn thing, he'll be a good player.
__________________
bigbluedefense is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:18 PM    (permalink
Xonraider
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tallahassee, Florida
Posts: 5,326
Reputation: 77081
Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xonraider is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I dont like either of them, but Id pick Williamson. He has a lot of talent and has very good speed. With proper teaching, he could be a decent WR.
__________________
Xonraider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:32 PM    (permalink
RaiderNation
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northern California 707
Posts: 13,817
Reputation: 494127
RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.RaiderNation is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

williams. he needs to lose some weight and get faster
__________________


Welcome to the Silver & Mack
"Just Win Baby"
- Al Davis
@SirStackAlot707
Winston > Mariota

RaiderNation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 05:59 PM    (permalink
TacticaLion
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Stationed in Ohio
Posts: 2,942
Reputation: 204
TacticaLion hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Mike Williams doesn't fit the Lions' offense (nor did he understand it last year)... which is why he probably wont see the field (or make the team). If he was moved to a team that could use his abilities, he could be a great player. People forget the prospect he was and what he did in college... hes got that talent but needs a system not built on speed.

Troy Williamson, on the other hand, has got great speed and some experience. If he improved his catching (which will most likely happen in time), he could become a true threat.

It's too early to write either of these players off (as many have done). Williams could easily "resurrect his career" if moved to a team that could use his abilities... and Williamson could do the same if he improved his catching.
__________________
Left NFLDC: 20080918.
TacticaLion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 06:05 PM    (permalink
elway777
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Not rocking the Barry Bonds asterisk
Posts: 8,615
Reputation: 449
elway777 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.elway777 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Perfect Score View Post
im gunna go with mike williams, just because i think with the proper coaching staff he could be moved to TE and used as an excellent underneath option. He was way more dominant in college then williamson, who was raw out of college and is still raw IMO. Id take williams, due to his college career and potential to succeed as a TE with proper motivation
Mike Williams has never blocked anything in his life!
elway777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 06:08 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 29,180
Reputation: 4191549
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elway777 View Post
Mike Williams has never blocked anything in his life!
Soon, his arteries will prove you wrong.
__________________
bigbluedefense is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 06:16 PM    (permalink
22,895
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 535
Reputation: 97
22,895 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Hopfully Big Mike can prove everybody wrong and be a somewhat productive Wide Receiver in he NFL, but he really needs to work a lot harder and get quicker and lose some weight.
22,895 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 06:20 PM    (permalink
WooWoo21
Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Lyndonville,Ny
Posts: 102
Reputation: 7
WooWoo21 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense View Post
Soon, his arteries will prove you wrong.
Thanks I needed a good laugh.
__________________
Thats only in the morning, you should be up cooking breakfast or something. Its like an alarm clock. Woo Woo!!!

Here to convert the Bills Haters of the World.
WooWoo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 06:24 PM    (permalink
Vikes99ej
Icon
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sioux Falls
Posts: 16,655
Reputation: 320894
Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I wish there was a neither option.
Vikes99ej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 06:27 PM    (permalink
Severe Punishment
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Viking Country
Posts: 1,545
Reputation: 110
Severe Punishment hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

This is by far my favorite topic to date.

I think the problem with both of these guys is the "systems" they've played in haven't featured them.
In college BMW was thrown to pretty often..and in S.C. Troy "jump started" the offense. In the pro's , they've been forced to learn that there is only 1 ball and many many other people who can contribute.
Neither has adjusted well, and both have been healthy benches (even last year...for T.W. the FINAL game of the year, when the Vikes had NOTHING to play for...he was a scratch.) I personally don't think either will ever have success playing for the teams they're currently under contract with.

..but being a Vikings fan, I'm going to hold out hope.
Severe Punishment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 06:40 PM    (permalink
yourfavestoner
#1 Vickscuser
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: LakerLand
Posts: 13,130
Reputation: 628697
yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.yourfavestoner is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense View Post
Soon, his arteries will prove you wrong.
Hahahaha. If I could give you more rep, I would.
yourfavestoner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 06:47 PM    (permalink
BUTerriers
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Boston University
Posts: 137
Reputation: 10
BUTerriers hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

It all depends if Mike Williams ever decides to actually show up for games. He's a big, quick, and unbelievably talented receiver, there's really no reason that he shouldn't be a dominant player in this league if he realizes that he actually has to be some effort in while he plays. I doubt he realizes it this year, but if the Lions release him, hopefully he gets resigned by someone and realizes the error of his ways, I truly think he has a future in this league.

I don't see Williamson as ever being a "star" in this league (his hands aren't good enough for him to be an elite receiver), but hopefully he'll mature into a decent player. I think that in the right system, he'd be an excellent number 2 receiver, he's still young and hardworking guy with world class speed. At the very least, he'll be a good slot receiver and return man somewhere, though he just doesn't fit the Vikings' current system. I think he'll have a better year than Williams this year, though not a great year; the work they're doing to improve his vision should help the drops somewhat.
__________________

Credit goes to Guesswhosback
BUTerriers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 07:32 PM    (permalink
detroit4life
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: detroit
Posts: 3,924
Reputation: 34431
detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.detroit4life is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

i'd take BMW because if willaism showed dedication and did what he had to do in terms of his weight and dedication then he could be a dominating wr. Williamson just seems like he cant catch the ball. The problem with BMW is not his size but his attitude and effort
__________________
detroit4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2007, 07:33 PM    (permalink
cardsalltheway
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Naptown
Posts: 1,401
Reputation: 652
cardsalltheway is a cocksman.cardsalltheway is a cocksman.cardsalltheway is a cocksman.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by detroit4life View Post
i'd take BMW because if willaism showed dedication and did what he had to do in terms of his weight and dedication then he could be a dominating wr. Williamson just seems like he cant catch the ball. The problem with BMW is not his size but his attitude and effort
That's a very big if.
__________________

Designs by D-Unit

ILEMTPKC - I Love Eli Manning <The Patriots Killer> Club
cardsalltheway is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.