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Old 08-24-2011, 02:50 PM    (permalink
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ESPN has added a head coach option to their fantasy this year. Muhahahahaha! Bill Belichick will lead me to another championship!
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if the value at #3 is freeman/bradford than Best in the 2nd round sounds too good to be true.
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Keepers: Ray Rice, Mike Turner, Matt Stafford, Desean Jackson

10 team PPR keeper league, Start 2 QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1OP/1K/1DST

OP is Offensive Player, meaning QBs can be played as a flex.

I've got the 3rd overall pick in the snake draft, where Ill be drafted either Josh Freeman or Sam Bradford. But Ive got the chance to trade my second round pick, which is actually #17 overall, for Jahvid Best. Should I do it? I could start him as the flex and push hard for receivers in round 3 and 4.
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if the value at #3 is freeman/bradford than Best in the 2nd round sounds too good to be true.
The value is Freeman / Bradford because 3 QBs can be in the starting lineup.
Unless I'm reading that wrong - it sure looks like 2QB and a flex OP (QB!) . . . right?

You should be spending your first 2 picks on QBs. **** RB / WR.
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Alright so heres my team in an 8 team keeper league (money league) we just started.

QB- Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger
RB- Micheal Turner, Peyton Hillis, Jahvid Best, Ladainian Tomlinson, Reggie Bush
WR- Greg Jennings, Dwayne Bowe, Jeremy Maclin, Plaxico Burress, Julio Jones, Malcolm Floyd
TE- Rob Gronkowski, Ben Watson
K- Stephen Gostkowski
Def- Philly

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Good team, but generally all the teams probably are in an 8 team league.
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keeper question for a PPR league

have Jamaal Charles but then have to keep 3 more out of Lagarette Blount, Beanie Wells, Ryan Mathews, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Mike Williams (TB), Wes Welker

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The value is Freeman / Bradford because 3 QBs can be in the starting lineup.
Unless I'm reading that wrong - it sure looks like 2QB and a flex OP (QB!) . . . right?

You should be spending your first 2 picks on QBs. **** RB / WR.
Thats correct. Talent is pretty thin up top at RB/WR, thats why Id love to add Best. If I did, I could push for WR in Round 3 and 4.
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keeper question for a PPR league

have Jamaal Charles but then have to keep 3 more out of Lagarette Blount, Beanie Wells, Ryan Mathews, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Mike Williams (TB), Wes Welker

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Thats tough. I don't love any of the RBs, I'd probably pass on all three honestly. If you've already got Charles, you might be able to get away with a lesser RB2 and keep VJ, Marshall and Mike Williams. At least you'll be set at WR.
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Hey guys, I'm drafting 9th in a 10 team league.

League setup:
QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE, K, DST, 7 Bench

25 pass yards = 1 pt
TD pass = 4 points

10 rush yards = 1 pt
Rush TD = 6 points

10 receiving yards = 1 pt
Receiving TD = 6 points



Who should I look to draft? +rep
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Hey guys, I'm drafting 9th in a 10 team league.

League setup:
QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE, K, DST, 7 Bench

25 pass yards = 1 pt
TD pass = 4 points

10 rush yards = 1 pt
Rush TD = 6 points

10 receiving yards = 1 pt
Receiving TD = 6 points


Who should I look to draft? +rep
McFadden, Gore, Shonn Greene, Mendenhall. Consider Felix Jones and Mark Ingram as early as the 3rd/4th round.

Make sure your WR/RB is occupied by a RB.

And if you trust Vick, 4pt pass-TD leagues are the ones in which he's most valuable.

If you don't take Vick, do not take a QB until VERY late (Stafford, Bradford, Eli, Flacco).

Take big play WRs (Wallace, DJax, VJax, etc.) and stay away from possession guys (Welker, Amendola).

As for TE, I'd wait until very late and grab two of the following: Jared Cook, Rob Gronkowski, Greg Olsen, Dustin Keller.

So if you don't take Vick in the first or second, your drat should be something like this.

Rd. 1: RB
Rd. 2: RB
Rd. 3: WR/RB
Rd. 4: WR/RB
Rd. 5: WR/RB
Rd. 6: WR/RB
Rd. 7: WR/RB
Rd. 8: WR/RB
Rd. 9: WR/RB
Rd. 10: TE/QB
Rd. 11: TE/QB
Rd. 12: TE/QB
Rd. 13: TE/QB
Rd. 14: DEF
Rd. 15: K
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have Jamaal Charles but then have to keep 3 more out of Lagarette Blount, Beanie Wells, Ryan Mathews, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Mike Williams (TB), Wes Welker

Thoughts?
After Charles I'd easily keep Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams(TB), and L Blount. Two big time RB's and WR's. Marshall has way too many questions around him with his attitude and QB, Mathews you can easily draft back if you want, same for Beanie too. The rest of those guys you'd have a tough time getting back.
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ESPN has added a head coach option to their fantasy this year. Muhahahahaha! Bill Belichick will lead me to another championship!

I thought they had this for years now? D-Unit had it in the war league for 2 years or so I thought, maybe 3.
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16 team league, 1 pt PPR, stadard scoring, how'd i do


QB Matt Schaub
WR Reggie Wayne
WR Mario Manningham
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Joseph Addai
TE Jermichael Finley
W/R Austin Collie
D/ST Texans
K Jay Feeley
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QB Matt Stafford
WR Danny Amendola
WR Davone Bess
RB Reggie Bush
RB Javon Ringer
RB Steven Ridley
TE Jared Cook

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16 team league, 1 pt PPR, stadard scoring, how'd i do


QB Matt Schaub
WR Reggie Wayne
WR Mario Manningham
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Joseph Addai
TE Jermichael Finley
W/R Austin Collie
D/ST Texans
K Jay Feeley
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QB Matt Stafford
WR Danny Amendola
WR Davone Bess
RB Reggie Bush
RB Javon Ringer
RB Steven Ridley
TE Jared Cook

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It looks better than my team and I drafted in a 10-team league lol
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keeper question for a PPR league

have Jamaal Charles but then have to keep 3 more out of Lagarette Blount, Beanie Wells, Ryan Mathews, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Mike Williams (TB), Wes Welker

Thoughts?
Any cost to keep? Lineup?

I love VJax to have a big year so he'd be my 1st pick to fill out the 4. After that, the lineup makes a big difference b/c I like Beanie to have a nice year. But, his value isn't as high as some of the others so he may not be the best option. I'm inclined to say LL nailed it.


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Thats correct. Talent is pretty thin up top at RB/WR, thats why Id love to add Best. If I did, I could push for WR in Round 3 and 4.
Seriously, though, if you can start 3 QBs, why aren't you mentioning possible QBs for that pick?

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Hey guys, I'm drafting 9th in a 10 team league.

League setup:
QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE, K, DST, 7 Bench

25 pass yards = 1 pt
TD pass = 4 points

10 rush yards = 1 pt
Rush TD = 6 points

10 receiving yards = 1 pt
Receiving TD = 6 points


Who should I look to draft? +rep
Pretty standard setup. BPA is your best bet, just don't touch QB until round 5 or later. 10 teams, lots of solid starting options at QB. Your first 4 picks really should be RB/WR in some combination. Personally, I'd be aiming for 3RB & 1WR, but it always depends on how things shake out.
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As for TE, I'd wait until very late and grab two of the following: Jared Cook, Rob Gronkowski, Greg Olsen, Dustin Keller.

So if you don't take Vick in the first or second, your drat should be something like this.

Rd. 1: RB
Rd. 2: RB
Rd. 3: WR/RB
Rd. 4: WR/RB
Rd. 5: WR/RB
Rd. 6: WR/RB
Rd. 7: WR/RB
Rd. 8: WR/RB
Rd. 9: WR/RB
Rd. 10: TE/QB
Rd. 11: TE/QB
Rd. 12: TE/QB
Rd. 13: TE/QB
Rd. 14: DEF
Rd. 15: K
Lol - you just listed my TE lineup for a money league. I laughed as guys wasted 3rd / 4th / 5th round picks on TE, then drafted Gronk / Olsen in 14 & 15 and grabbed Cook as my final pick in 19.

Also, totally agree on the round / pick breakdown. There's just no reason to take a QB or TE early, especially in a 10 team league.

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16 team league, 1 pt PPR, stadard scoring, how'd i do


QB Matt Schaub
WR Reggie Wayne
WR Mario Manningham
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Joseph Addai
TE Jermichael Finley
W/R Austin Collie
D/ST Texans
K Jay Feeley
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QB Matt Stafford
WR Danny Amendola
WR Davone Bess
RB Reggie Bush
RB Javon Ringer
RB Steven Ridley
TE Jared Cook

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That's an incredible team for a 16 team draft. Nice work!
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In a keeper league I kept Tom Brady over Larry Fitzgerald. Bad move? 6pt per passing TD and only .5 PPR.
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In a keeper league I kept Tom Brady over Larry Fitzgerald. Bad move? 6pt per passing TD and only .5 PPR.
Yes. Fitzgerald > Brady in fantasy football. Period. Always. You can get a QB later.
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Yes. Fitzgerald > Brady in fantasy football. Period. Always. You can get a QB later.
Eh not always. In our format Brady scored 27 more points than any player. The difference between Brady and the #10 ranked QB (Eli Manning) was 82 points. The difference between Larry and the WR ranked roughly 10 spots below him will be less of a difference. It's up for discussion, otherwise I wouldn't have brought it up, but I don't think it's nearly as clear cut as you think.
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Yes. Fitzgerald > Brady in fantasy football. Period. Always. You can get a QB later.
Absolutely not true. I love Larry Fitz as much as anyone, but Id be very surprised if at the end of the year there's a huge differential between his stats and say, Mike Williams. There's a huge disparity in talent, but I wouldn't expect a huge differential in stats unless that Arizona offense is much more potent then I expect. The depth at WR this year is very strong, and Brady is a perpetual 30TD guy.
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Disagree. There are very few sure things at WR. All QBs are sure to put up stats. Mike Williams has about as much chance to ruin your team by not producing near last year's production as he does to equal Fitz's.

Every year, you can simply plug 'n play QBs and not lose a beat (if you're smart). Last year if you didn't draft a QB AT ALL, you could have had a 3-man rotation of Vick, Orton, and Fitzpatrick and been better than fine.
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Disagree. There are very few sure things at WR. All QBs are sure to put up stats. Mike Williams has about as much chance to ruin your team by not producing near last year's production as he does to equal Fitz's.

Every year, you can simply plug 'n play QBs and not lose a beat (if you're smart). Last year if you didn't draft a QB AT ALL, you could have had a 3-man rotation of Vick, Orton, and Fitzpatrick and been better than fine.
There was a 16 TD difference between Orton and Brady last year. That's not including the difference in yards and INTs. The difference between Fitz and whatever WR you want to name won't be that large.
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There was a 16 TD difference between Orton and Brady last year. That's not including the difference in yards and INTs. The difference between Fitz and whatever WR you want to name won't be that large.
OK but you are neglecting the fact that if you reaped the benefits of Brady's awesome season, you paid a 3rd round pick. The person who picked up Orton/Vick/late round QB got an impact RB or WR in the 3rd round.

Also, Orton missed 3 starts so you obviously would have started someone else in those weeks.

Brady had an amazing season last year. It's doubtful he puts on the same show. Fitz on the other hand has an actual QB rather than John Skelton and Derek Anderson.

In 1-QB leagues, this isn't even a discussion. If you had 12th overall pick in a 1-QB league and took Tom Brady over Larry Fitzgerald... I wish I was in a league with you...

There's a reason why literally 0 publications rank Tom Brady over Fitz in 1-QB leagues.
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OK but you are neglecting the fact that if you reaped the benefits of Brady's awesome season, you paid a 3rd round pick. The person who picked up Orton/Vick/late round QB got an impact RB or WR in the 3rd round.

Also, Orton missed 3 starts so you obviously would have started someone else in those weeks.

Brady had an amazing season last year. It's doubtful he puts on the same show. Fitz on the other hand has an actual QB rather than John Skelton and Derek Anderson.

In 1-QB leagues, this isn't even a discussion. If you had 12th overall pick in a 1-QB league and took Tom Brady over Larry Fitzgerald... I wish I was in a league with you...

There's a reason why literally 0 publications rank Tom Brady over Fitz in 1-QB leagues.
That's true. But I'm not drafting from scratch. I'm just keeping a player off my roster from the previous season. And I got Brady 48th overall I think last year.

As for the rankings, most leagues are passing TDs 4 points (which I always found stupid) vs mine is 6.
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Eh not always. In our format Brady scored 27 more points than any player. The difference between Brady and the #10 ranked QB (Eli Manning) was 82 points. The difference between Larry and the WR ranked roughly 10 spots below him will be less of a difference. It's up for discussion, otherwise I wouldn't have brought it up, but I don't think it's nearly as clear cut as you think.
And this is wrong. It should be the # of starting WRs per team x10 that you compare with the difference between Eli and Brady. So Fitz vs. the 20th or 30th WR... and again - that's based on last year's stats. This year, it makes sense to predict a slight drop-off for Brady (possibly big drop-off), and at least a slight bump in production for Fitz. Regress/progressing to the mean.
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That's true. But I'm not drafting from scratch. I'm just keeping a player off my roster from the previous season. And I got Brady 48th overall I think last year.
So do you lose the 48th overall pick? Or you just get to start your team with one player from your roster last year?
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