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Old 09-05-2011, 08:49 AM    (permalink
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1. Tupac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Em
5. Jay-Z
6. AZ
7. Andre3K
8. Big Boi
9. Scarface
10. Rakim
11. Method Man
12. Redman
13. Raekwon
14. Ghostface
15. Common
16. Busta Rhymes
17. Big Pun
18. Big L
19. LL Cool J
20. Kool G Rap
21. Big Daddy Kane
22. Chuck D
23. Mos Def
24. Talib Kweli
25. Ras Kass
26. Black Thought
27. Gza
28. Pharoahe Monch
29. Guru
30. The Lox
31. Mobb Deep
32. Xzibit

I could go on, but all of these guys are head and shoulders better MCs than Kanye.

Kanye puts out great music, he's an excellent producer and you'd have a better argument if you wanted to say he was the GOAT as a producer. But as a rapper, he's average at best.
Like I said i misread the post and didn't know he said goat. LOL@Mobb Deep/Xzibit
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LOL@Mobb Deep/Xzibit
You need to catch up on your hip hop 101 if you don't think Mobb Deep/Xzibit were better MCs than Kanye.
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:25 PM    (permalink
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obviously kanye isn't goat as a rapper, but in terms of the overall package? it's hard to find guys who can produce and rap at that level consistently. and let's also not underrate kanye as an mc. just because he's not spitting about coming from or about poverty/the ghetto/etc. doesn't mean he's not rapping dope ****.
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You need to catch up on your hip hop 101 if you don't think Mobb Deep/Xzibit were better MCs than Kanye.
I bet you read more list about rating lyricist than listened to songs by half the people on your list.
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I'll put Mobb Deep > Kanye easily. 90's/early 2000 Mobb Deep was the ****.
Havoc was a dope ass producer. Prodigy was good before he forgot how to rhyme.
You can counter that Kanye is both in one package but I'll maintain my original statement.
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You are missing E-40, The Game and Mac Dre on your list IMO. All 3 are greats in my eyes
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Yeah there is some serious underrating of Kanye going on here. I will concede I haven't listened to all the guys you listed as better, but Kanye just puts out great music. As an overall artist, I can't really think of many if any that are better.
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i'm not going to make a list right now because i don't have one (even tho i did kinda spark this debate) but looking at some of these lists, Kool G Rap is being criminally underrated - IMO of course. :P
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I bet you read more list about rating lyricist than listened to songs by half the people on your list.
I actually do (or have in the past) listen(ed) to all of these guys on a regular basis. That's why I can say with 100% confidence they are all better MCs than Kanye.

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i'm not going to make a list right now because i don't have one (even tho i did kinda spark this debate) but looking at some of these lists, Kool G Rap is being criminally underrated - IMO of course. :P
It's not really a "list", I was just naming them as they popped in my head. There are probably a lot more guys I could've listed if I actually took my time.

G Rap is a legend, Roots of Evil is one of my favorite albums of all time.
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idk but that hold on john song is one of the best songs ive heard in a while.
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Xzibit? The dude can't freestyle to save his life. Tom Green outdid him on his show.

And if you don't like Mobb, listen to Shook Ones.
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Xzibit? The dude can't freestyle to save his life. Tom Green outdid him on his show.

And if you don't like Mobb, listen to Shook Ones.
if freestyling was a judging point, jin would be the GOAT
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if freestyling was a judging point, jin would be the GOAT
Canibus says hi. Canibus should be on the better rapper list as well. Guys production has been comically bad, but he is an amazing MC.
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Yea Canibus is ill, I forgot to mention Bone Thugs too.






I think we can put the 'Kanye could be the GOAT' talk in the trash.
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Xzibit? The dude can't freestyle to save his life. Tom Green outdid him on his show.

And if you don't like Mobb, listen to Shook Ones.

Idk about that, X has gotten a lot of hate since he went on Pimp My Ride but he was a beast with the Alkaholiks and all through his first 3 solos.

Here's a pretty good freestyle BTW, "Gettin beat by the chain of command, tear out the heart of a man and watch em die while it beat in my hand"

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Idk about that, X has gotten a lot of hate since he went on Pimp My Ride but he was a beast with the Alkaholiks and all through his first 3 solos.

Here's a pretty good freestyle BTW, "Gettin beat by the chain of command, tear out the heart of a man and watch em die while it beat in my hand"

X and Ice Cube both get their fair share of hate nowadays. The hate certainly isn't without reason, but both (especially Cube) were pretty awesome.
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Canibus says hi. Canibus should be on the better rapper list as well. Guys production has been comically bad, but he is an amazing MC.
Canibus is indeed awesome. Punchlines is a sick song.
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THIS IS A MUCH WATCH!!!!!! skip the first 2mins though.

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