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Old 05-11-2011, 02:14 PM    (permalink
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I can see that side but i feel like its hard to get in a rhythm cause they are always subbing in and out.
That will not stop him from being a 1st-2nd Round back this year.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
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Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
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That will not stop him from being a 1st-2nd Round back this year.
oh no he is the best back the U has had in years... I think the ACC is in for a bit of a shock.
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I can see that side but i feel like its hard to get in a rhythm cause they are always subbing in and out.
I don't think rhythm is that big of a deal for a RB. If anything, it will just keep him fresher.
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Will be better then Trent Richardson this year I promise!
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
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Will be better then Trent Richardson this year I promise!
you think so? cause he out played Ingram last year that is very high praise for miller
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you think so? cause he out played Ingram last year that is very high praise for miller
If Miller won't built like that I would have not made that statement.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:04 PM    (permalink
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Now can you guys PLEASE start mocking him in the first 2 rounds of your mocks? He is so NFL READY
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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Guy has wheels. Maybe just a school comparison, but he does seem pretty similar to a young Clinton Portis, same size and speed. And a suggestion for Al Golden, stop subbing in Mike James, the guy doesn't have half of the ability as Miller.
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I agree Lamar Miller is good but he will never be a better prospect than Trent Richardson.
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I agree Lamar Miller is good but he will never be a better prospect than Trent Richardson.
Who cares! Lamar will go in the 1st which is all that matters! Who is to say Richardson won't bust or have nagging injury problems.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
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I was just going off of a quote in the thread, obviously made in May but I didn't quote in when I responded.
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Will be better then Trent Richardson this year I promise!
It's obvious you have a boner for this guy. I'll bet you he doesn't go first round.
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Guy has wheels. Maybe just a school comparison, but he does seem pretty similar to a young Clinton Portis, same size and speed. And a suggestion for Al Golden, stop subbing in Mike James, the guy doesn't have half of the ability as Miller.
He kind of reminds me of Ryan Williams or Felix Jones more than Portis. Portis is great in pass pro whereas Miller struggles in that area, he whiffed on a block that led to a fumble last night. That said, dude is an explosive runner. Very nice cuts/acceleration.
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Repeat after me. The BEST runningback in the ACC is.....

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It's obvious you have a boner for this guy. I'll bet you he doesn't go first round.
Who cares? Trent Richardson is gonna go high based on his status as a HS recruit and his muscles. If the guy had a fourth of the running vision and reactions that Mark Ingram had, he'd be the next Adrian Peterson, but he's just a guy who was spotted as a good athlete growing up and was told to play RB. He is gonna bust in the NFL, and even if Lamar Miller doesn't go in the first round, he will be a better running back.
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Who cares? Trent Richardson is gonna go high based on his status as a HS recruit and his muscles.
Have you not seen him run at Alabama? He's legit, he's powerful, he's fast. He's north-south, one cut and go.

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If the guy had a fourth of the running vision and reactions that Mark Ingram had, he'd be the next Adrian Peterson, but he's just a guy who was spotted as a good athlete growing up and was told to play RB. He is gonna bust in the NFL, and even if Lamar Miller doesn't go in the first round, he will be a better running back.
What RB wasn't spotted as a good athlete and was told to play RB?
What are you basing your statement of him busting in the NFL around?
Explain to me how Miller will be a better running back. What's your reasoning?
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Trent Richardson is the most overrated on this board. Lamar Miller will be a better pro.
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Have you not seen him run at Alabama? He's legit, he's powerful, he's fast. He's north-south, one cut and go.


What RB wasn't spotted as a good athlete and was told to play RB?
What are you basing your statement of him busting in the NFL around?
Explain to me how Miller will be a better running back. What's your reasoning?
I thought i was pretty specific when i mentioned his lack of vision. He doesn't see holes developing like a good rb should. And i don't just mean on the offensive line, i'm talking about when he reaches the second level as well. It's nice that you're fast and powerful, but in the NFL, everyone is fast and powerful. What brought him success at the HS (and on a smaller scale, at the collegiate level) won't work the same in the NFL. Richardson is bulky, he reminds me a lot of Jonathan Stewart, but not quite the runner. Miller has better quickness and agility and has better open field running ability. I just don't see what Richardson has done to claim he's a top five or top ten RB. With the way the NFL works now, 100 times out of 100 i'd rather take a Miller type player in the 2nd or 3rd than waste a top 20 pick on a hyped up player like Richardson.
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In trying to separate being a homer from being a draft evaluator, I really feel that Miller has the capabilities of being a special RB in a one cut zone system on the next level. His running style perfectly suits that offense. He's just such a natural runner with great vision but also possess special speed and acceleration, especially for a 5'11 215 back.

Just a little nugget I thought I'd drop here....

"Now, he is only a redshirt sophomore and this is just one game. However, Miller is draft eligible after the year and if he does decide to come out, I could very easily see him not only being a potential first round pick, but end up challenging Richardson as the draft’s top back come April."
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Just do as I ask PLEASE start mocking him in the first 2 Rounds of your mocks once you decide do post another, because it is a crime not to have him in 1.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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Trent has proven he is the best back but Lamar has shown flashes that he can be better!
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

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Another thing about the whole Richardson bust scenario... No one can rule out the possibility of him or anyone else becoming a bust..... Name 1 RB on the collegiate level who does great 1 year and then next you say he is a bust....Me personally I look at guys like the Ron Dayne's, Curtis Enes', William Green's, Laurence Maroney's who were all good backs on the collegiate level, but not pan out as we expected they would.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:45 AM    (permalink
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Just do as I ask PLEASE start mocking him in the first 2 Rounds of your mocks once you decide do post another, because it is a crime not to have him in 1.
Why does that matter to you? I don't get it.
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Old 09-07-2011, 01:10 PM    (permalink
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Repeat after me. The BEST runningback in the ACC is.....

David Wilson.

The BEST runningback in the ACC is.....

David Wilson.
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Old 09-07-2011, 01:32 PM    (permalink
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Why does that matter to you? I don't get it.
It bothers me that a guy like LaMichael James who is not an every down back but still gets projected in quite a few mocks on this site as a 1st Rounder. Hell Ray Ray Armstrong even gets a 1st Round nod and he isn't even the best Cane Safety on the roster.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:47 PM    (permalink
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Trent has proven he is the best back but Lamar has shown flashes that he can be better!
How exactly has Richardson proven he is the best back?
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