E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State - Page 3

JeffSamardzijaIRISH · 09-17-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

He was injured since they insist on making him run the ball so much. They brought in the back-up freshman QB Triplett who looked really good throwing the ball, so when EJ came back from the locker room I don't think they wanted to screw up the flow of things. Especially since Triplett made a huge TD pass on 3rd and 28 that tied the game.

Clint Trickett didn't look good at all. He was bailed out by his receivers multiple times -- especially on the TD pass. Manuel was probably too injured to play, otherwise he would've been in the game.

SickwithIt1010 · 09-17-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

He was injured since they insist on making him run the ball so much. They brought in the back-up freshman QB Triplett who looked really good throwing the ball, so when EJ came back from the locker room I don't think they wanted to screw up the flow of things. Especially since Triplett made a huge TD pass on 3rd and 28 that tied the game.

hahaha Triplett threw that 3rd and 28 into triple coverage...that was horrible. He did nothing to show them he was a better option than Manuel.

SolidGold · 09-18-2011, 09:07 AM

Manuel threw alot of check down passes, didn't really attempt to stretch the defense last night.

Babylon · 09-18-2011, 10:53 AM

I thought he showed some good things and at other times was off on his throws. Better runner than i expected.

LonghornsLegend · 09-18-2011, 10:54 AM

Eh, Manuel looked healthy enough to go to me but it's not like I would know. But as someone said above Manuel hardly challenged the defense deep. At least the passing lanes started opening up more. Trickett is a freshman who came in at the mid way point of the game, vs the #1 team in the country, who expected him to turn into all pro in that situation?

I don't think they even score a TD with Manuel especially when they were forced to pass.

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

hahaha Triplett threw that 3rd and 28 into triple coverage

And? It was 3rd and 28. Who was going to be in single coverage? It was none the less a huge TD pass which was all I said. I never said he dismantled that defense with his arm.

shylo3716 · 09-18-2011, 11:12 AM

So now you all are writing Manuel off as the guy to make things happen and take the team to the next level, since Ponder left. After all he did win a MVP with Ponder still aboard.

Babylon · 09-18-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shylo3716

So now you all are writing Manuel off as the guy to make things happen and take the team to the next level, since Ponder left. After all he did win a MVP with Ponder still aboard.

I said he showed some good things and missed some others, what are we supposed to do give him a ticket to Canton based on hype?

shylo3716 · 09-18-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Babylon

I said he showed some good things and missed some others, what are we supposed to do give him a ticket to Canton based on hype?

You're overexaggerating

SolidGold · 09-18-2011, 04:12 PM

He didn't play exactly "lights out" on the big stage and he has been highly touted by alot of folks...he failed to live up to the hype being given to him.

shylo3716 · 09-18-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidGold

He didn't play exactly "lights out" on the big stage and he has been highly touted by alot of folks...he failed to live up to the hype being given to him.

If he wanted to he could go "Cam Newton" and take off once the play breaks down every play to make something happen, which would not be a problem for him at all. It's nothing for him to get 10 yards per carry!!!!

Can you say EFFORTLESS?

SolidGold · 09-18-2011, 04:48 PM

Effortless

shylo3716 · 09-18-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidGold

Effortless

Thank you..... +rep your way!!!

SolidGold · 09-18-2011, 06:57 PM

Ha thanks...ill throw some your way too. But in all honesty taking off and running effortlessly does not make a good QB. I was expecting Manuel to have a better performance especially with Jimbo Fischer's play calling.

TuckNole · 09-18-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

I don't think they even score a TD with Manuel especially when they were forced to pass.

EJ could/should (however you want to say it) have had 2 TD passes. Kenny Shaws first TD cach was negated by a holding call that had no effect on the play. And his second TD catch was dislodged by helmet-to-helmet unconsciousnes. Box score wont read it due to penalties, but EJ was effective considering he was going up against a defense that was top 10 last year and is likely just as good this year.

sbh15 · 09-18-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shylo3716

If he wanted to he could go "Cam Newton" and take off once the play breaks down every play to make something happen, which would not be a problem for him at all. It's nothing for him to get 10 yards per carry!!!!

Can you say EFFORTLESS?

i'm sorry, but if that had any hint of truth whatsoever, he would literally be running the ball every single play. there's absolutely no point in throwing a ball if you can 'effortlessly' get 10 yards rushing any time you want.

shylo3716 · 09-18-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sbh15

i'm sorry, but if that had any hint of truth whatsoever, he would literally be running the ball every single play. there's absolutely no point in throwing a ball if you can 'effortlessly' get 10 yards rushing any time you want.

Take it from a Gator Lol

BuddyCHRIST · 09-19-2011, 01:31 PM

The way Manuel throws the ball makes me very uneasy, he never lets the ball go and puts alot of air under everything. He has alot of arm strength but never ropes the ball to a spot.

After rewatching the game on TV it really bothered me more, he had many open guys than he wouldn't hit at the right time because he put too much air under the ball.

shylo3716 · 09-24-2011, 10:41 PM

Will he lose his starting spot to Trickett?

I'm quite sure next Spring there will be a Nick Saban type of battle amongst the 2.

SolidGold · 09-24-2011, 11:19 PM

I like Trickett, he likes throwing it downfield. FSU has a good situation with two good QBs.

shylo3716 · 09-24-2011, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidGold

I like Trickett, he likes throwing it downfield. FSU has a good situation with two good QBs.

I would hate to see "The Saban Scenario".

SolidGold · 09-24-2011, 11:28 PM

Its better than the Spurrier Scenario

JeffSamardzijaIRISH · 09-25-2011, 04:11 AM

The thing with Trickett is that he'll put up some decent stats, but he seems to fold whenever he's needed most (unfair to judge him on this in two games, but both times when he could lead a potential game winning/tying drive, he fails). He's just a freshman but seems like he'll be a solid QB for the future. I'd much rather have Manuel lead the offense for now.

BuddyCHRIST · 09-25-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffSamardzijaIRISH

The thing with Trickett is that he'll put up some decent stats, but he seems to fold whenever he's needed most (unfair to judge him on this in two games, but both times when he could lead a potential game winning/tying drive, he fails). He's just a freshman but seems like he'll be a solid QB for the future. I'd much rather have Manuel lead the offense for now.

Come on now...

He had absolutely zero running game, sketchy pass protection at times, a young group of WR's and playing on the road. And almost led us to the win despite the defense turning in a horrible effort. He had a ball dropped on the potential game winning drive, a false start turn 4th and 4 into 4th and 9 and then zero protection on that final play.

To have anything negative to say about Trickett after that game is grasping at thin air.

FUNBUNCHER · 09-26-2011, 06:04 AM

I like EJ Manuel's potential, but IMO Trickett seems like the better pure QB. That FSU offense looks like a different animal when Trickett is under center.

Trickett's the guy who's going to lead the Seminoles resurgence back to national prominence, and sadly not EJ.

Trickett appears to see things better downfield and has a more natural feel for the position, from what little I've seen of him.

shylo3716 · 05-08-2012, 02:02 PM

Will he be on the radar this year as a Top QB prospect?