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Old 03-28-2007, 10:38 PM    (permalink
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Yeah it was Hope, you can see about a second of it in this video, around 1:30 and 5:15 to see the full cliphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UoiW...related&search=
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That was about 2 seconds after the INT.
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I don't think he has a slow release, I actually think his release is pretty quick. But over the years, it seems like his release point is getting lower. There are times when he throws almost completely sidearm.
This is pretty accurate. Carr can get it out fast when he tries to. His problem is that he doesn't see the open guy. Or if he does, he second guesses his decision and then looks elsewhere. By that time he's sacked. He's gun shy, pretty much afraid to take chances cause in the past receivers would drop it or theyd miraculously knock it into the arms of a defender. On the deep ball, the defender always positioned himself better than his wideout, except for Dre on some occasions, which is why everything went his way. I think Mike Holmgren would be a great coach for him, but I'd rather see him in Carolina because, well I like them better. Some one has got to get him some confidence and a better throwing motion.
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I think he's either going to end up in seattle or Carolina. I just hope he comes to carolina because realistically I think Jake's got maybe one or two years left as a starter. If we sign carr he can have his mechanics reworked by Mike McCoy and can be helped by Jeff Davidson who didn't do too badly with Charlie Frye considering, Frye's supporting cast. He can sit, learn the offense, regain his confidence destroying second team defenses and then come in and take the reins when Delhomme leaves for a few years until he's too long in the tooth.

Carr is perfect for John Fox, he likes players with NFL experience but need coaching. Carr knows how to read defenses, he knows what to expect in game situations, what he needs is tutelage in how to harness his experience and put it with his physical abilities to become the player he could've been.
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What QB in this league looks good throwing from his backside or running for his life? Put this kid in a situation where he has time and protection, and I think he will be a good NFL QB. It may take a little growing pains but he'll be ok.
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What QB in this league looks good throwing from his backside or running for his life? Put this kid in a situation where he has time and protection, and I think he will be a good NFL QB. It may take a little growing pains but he'll be ok.
No he won't. He has no useful QB skills. Can't read a defense. Has no idea of the concept of stepping up in the pocket. Doesn't even know there is a #2 WR. AJ - 159 targets, Moulds 78. Now before I even hear the ridiculous, Moulds is slow, etc. He caught 73% of the passes. Now if a guy is catching 73% of the passes his way, either he still has it or every defenses' #2 CB blows. Which one would you like to choose from? Either way, it's further proof that carr is pure garbage.

There's more but the bottom line is Carr is a BUST. I knew it 3 years ago, I was right.
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Thats why I hope the Raiders do not sign Carr. He has know clue how to use his weapons around him, he gets sacked worse than Andrew Walter, and he has no arm strenght what so ever.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...e&type=fantasy

Friday, March 30, 2007

Update: Raiders' coach Lane Kiffin confirmed that he has spoken with Carr's agent about potentially acquiring the quarterback, insidebayarea.com reports.

Recommendation: Kiffin did not elaborate on the outcome of those talks, and the Raiders appear poised to select JaMarcus Russell with the first overall choice in April's draft. Carr is scheduled to visit the Seahawks and Panthers next week.
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I have no idea why he would go to Seattle, but Carolina would be a very good choice from a football perspective.
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I have no idea why he would go to Seattle, but Carolina would be a very good choice from a football perspective.
Matt Hasselback isn't exactly a spring chicken...
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He's younger than Delhomme. He'd be in a bad system for his talents too imo.
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Carr is going to make a sick pro when he gets behind an offensive line.

Unfortunately, it might take a little bit and people will expect results FAST. He still has alot of bad habits from the Texans sucking. Still, I think they're fixable with a coaching staff that works hard with their players. A team like the Jets would be a perfect fit for him if it wasn't Pennington.

Still, his situation in Texas a an all time crap O-line, no defense, inconsistent at best running game, and one WR...and he was told to win a Super Bowl NOW.
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As long as Carr avoids the QB bottomless pits, he'll be fine. Miami, Oakland, Detroit, Tampa Bay, and Washington.


Kansas City, St. Louis, Green Bay, Buffalo, and Cleveland would all be fine landing spots for him.
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Carr is so streaky - one game he'll play lights out, the next game he'll play like a scrub. I still think he has some untapped talent though, cause he has shown glimpses.
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Carr is so streaky - one game he'll play lights out, the next game he'll play like a scrub. I still think he has some untapped talent though, cause he has shown glimpses.
I saw a lot of good passes get deflected off his wide receivers and dropped, not to mention the line woes.
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Carr has superb physical skills, but he has no anticipation skills and has made little progress in reading defenses.
Let's see anyone trying to develop anticipation skills behind the sieve the texans called their offensive line.

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The lukewarm interest in David Carr really does surprise me somewhat. I thought some teams would step in and pick up the kid as soon as he was cut. He has a lot of issues, to be sure, but there's also talent there and he's still young enough. I think he might have to wait until the Trent Green shoe drops, and then we see who's left from the bunch.
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As long as Carr avoids the QB bottomless pits, he'll be fine. Miami, Oakland, Detroit, Tampa Bay, and Washington.


Kansas City, St. Louis, Green Bay, Buffalo, and Cleveland would all be fine landing spots for him.
Tampa Bay and Miami are bottomless pits, but Cleveland is not? Huh?
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I'm also suprised that nobody has signed him yet. The best place I think where he should end up is Miami or somebody who could use a steady back up.
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He's visiting carolina today and possibly seattle tomorrow.
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I think he wants to sit a year or 2 and regain his confidence in his play...his mechanics are apparently shot...and when he feels the rush he either dumps the ball off or falls to the ground in the fetal position....I still think the team that gets him will get a quality player....Houston just had too much riding on him for him to succeed....every play was scrutinized and he had to do it all....and worst of all, he was never going to be Vince Young to Houstonians...As of now, Carr isnt a good QB, he is slighty below average...but with proper coaching and rebuilt confidence, he can be a very good starter I think....and probably a good replacement for Delhomme or Hasselbeck, should he sign with one of those teams....if he goes to Cleveland/Oakland/Miami...I dont think he will last...
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His mechanics aren't necessarily bad, just different.
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Is he wanting alot of money thats the real question? Teams aren't going to pay alot for somebody who did bad with the Texans.
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I believe his main problem is his intangibles, specifically his leadership. Carr just doesn't seem to inspire much confidence in his teamates and you could see that when some of the other Texans began to turn on him last year.
I completely agree, he's another Joey Harrington = no intangibles. Carr will be a one and out with whoever signs him. That 1 year and out of the league.
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David Carr= Another Joey Harrington
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Joey Harrington for the Dolphins or the Lions?
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