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Old 10-24-2011, 07:44 PM    (permalink
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By the way Nate Davis is apparently going to play Arena Football for the Kansas City Command. He is apparently in line to be the starter.
Forgot all about him. Hope he works his ass off and gets his career going in the right direction.
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By the way Nate Davis is apparently going to play Arena Football for the Kansas City Command. He is apparently in line to be the starter.
he is so much better than Alex Smith!
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Nate Davis needs to come back to the 49ers and have a Hall of Fame career and make me look smart for believing in him.
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It's not a lack of talent on Nate's part. He needed coaching and direction. Something resembling a plan would have really helped his cause and he just wasn't in a situation where he could succeed. He may not have worked hard enough when he was here, but it had to be frustrating as hell for a guy like him. He would have required extra effort from his coaches, not just himself.

He may never be in a scenario to prove you right. There are plenty of people with talent with restrictions like his that don't see the success they should.
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It's not a lack of talent on Nate's part. He needed coaching and direction. Something resembling a plan would have really helped his cause and he just wasn't in a situation where he could succeed. He may not have worked hard enough when he was here, but it had to be frustrating as hell for a guy like him. He would have required extra effort from his coaches, not just himself.

He may never be in a scenario to prove you right. There are plenty of people with talent with restrictions like his that don't see the success they should.
If only he had a chance to be working with this staff instead of being stuck with last year's "coaching."

Was hoping Nate would latch on with a UFL team. Unfortunate that the league is probably on it's last legs.

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he is so much better than Alex Smith!
I remember Damon Bruce (after the Rams loss last year) was on KNBR's post game show saying the 49ers need to start Nate Davis so they can sell tickets to the finale game. Just cringe worthy radio.

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If only he had a chance to be working with this staff instead of being stuck with last year's "coaching."
Well it wasn't Sing's "coaching" that got him cut by the Seahawks and Colts. I was a huge Davis fan. Had him ranked above Mark Sanchez in fact. Unfortunately what I didn't know was that he has terrible work-ethic to go with his severe learning disability. Terrible combination, regardless of arm talent.
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I still don't like how his departure all went down. Singletary and Jimmy Raye not thinking that he was right for the team doesn't really convince me. He did get released by the Seahawks, but it's not like they know what they're doing with their quarterbacks necessarily either. Same with the Colts at this point in time. I just can't believe that Nate Davis gives a worse chance to win a game compared to the likes of Troy Smith, Curtis Painter, Charlie Whitehurst, or Tavaris Jackson.

Apparently, he was lazy though. I'd still take a chance on him though. He definitely passed the eyeball test when he was here.
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Well it wasn't Sing's "coaching" that got him cut by the Seahawks and Colts. I was a huge Davis fan. Had him ranked above Mark Sanchez in fact. Unfortunately what I didn't know was that he has terrible work-ethic to go with his severe learning disability. Terrible combination, regardless of arm talent.
Don't disagree that his work ethic could have improved but was he really in an environment that a QB with a learning disability could have thrived in? We have heard all the reports of the offensive ineptness of philosophy during the Raye/Johnson era. I also believe that Singletary's exceptions were completely unrealistic for Davis in his 2nd year, IMO. But as you said two offensive minded teams (EDIT- Originally had coaches but Jim Caldwell doesn't count) gave up on Davis quick so moot point at this point.

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Well look at the Seahawks and Colts now. They don't look like they could do much worse with Nate Davis in the lineup.
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Well look at the Seahawks and Colts now. They don't look like they could do much worse with Nate Davis in the lineup.
With some of the quarterbacking we have seen the last 2 days, there are a ton of guys wondering how they are out of jobs. Just a brutal display.
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Nate Davis couldn't fully grasp the Jimmy Raye playbook.

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Nate Davis couldn't fully grasp the Jimmy Raye playbook.

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Neither could any of our other quarterbacks from what I saw that year. Or rather, they weren't executing what they apparently "knew". Davis arguably had the best accuracy on the team.
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Nate Davis couldn't fully grasp the Jimmy Raye playbook.

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Indeed.

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yea the Nate Davis saga pretty much destroyed my ability to listen to knbr...the fans/hosts truly lost it and showed their ineptitude when it came to that issue....I was truly embarrassed to be a niner fan. I really have a problem associating with the common niner fan nowadays, don't even rock any gear, just root for the team.
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yea the Nate Davis saga pretty much destroyed my ability to listen to knbr...the fans/hosts truly lost it and showed their ineptitude when it came to that issue....I was truly embarrassed to be a niner fan. I really have a problem associating with the common niner fan nowadays, don't even rock any gear, just root for the team.
I lost it when they thought JT Osullivan was good...
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Cause he sucks.....
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Hmmm, but neither did any of the other QB's, Singletary, the OL, the offense itself or anyone watching which probably explains why Raye is LONG gone and nowhere to be found.

With that said, I would have liked to see what Harbaugh thought of Davis. Oh well.
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Neither could any of our other quarterbacks from what I saw that year. Or rather, they weren't executing what they apparently "knew". Davis arguably had the best accuracy on the team.
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Hmmm, but neither did any of the other QB's, Singletary, the OL, the offense itself or anyone watching which probably explains why Raye is LONG gone and nowhere to be found.

With that said, I would have liked to see what Harbaugh thought of Davis. Oh well.
Davis had a full year with a normal off season to learn the offense and half way through training camp Dingleberry comes out and says that Davis is a lazy **** and only knew 2/3 of the Raye playbook. Which consisted of around 20 plays, 10 of which were HB dives.
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haha, if Ted Ginn ran a ball out at the 1 yard line then we would have rather evidence of the Tecmo Bowl offense. I used to do that all the time with the Raiders and Chiefs. I loved handing off to Christian Okoye for multiple 99 yard touchdowns. My goal was to get 1,000 yards rushing in one game. Sadly it never happened.
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Davis had a full year with a normal off season to learn the offense and half way through training camp Dingleberry comes out and says that Davis is a lazy **** and only knew 2/3 of the Raye playbook. Which consisted of around 20 plays, 10 of which were HB dives.
I'm not sure if you're just trying to be funny or not. Singletary never disclosed how much Nate Davis knew or didn't know. He simply said this:

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“You have to know where the first-down marker is, you don’t just fall down,” Singletary said with his anger rising. Just before he was going to delve into “I want winners!” -like speech, Singletary stopped himself. “Don’t get me started,” he smoldered.

Singletary also seemed to be giving up on Davis’s competition with David Carr for the second-string quarterback job. “I just think he’s competing with himself right now. I’m pulling for him; I’m hoping. He’s just inconsistent,” Singletary said.

The coach also questioned Davis’s work ethic in the off-season, saying Davis needed to study harder to get the plays down and now he has to play catch-up and Singletary isn’t sure he can do it.

“I’m pulling for him. I’m hoping; he’s just inconsistent,” Singletary said.
Then he has him actually make the final roster, but cuts him for Troy Smith. Nate Davis couldn't have been worse than Troy Smith I don't care what anyone says.
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Preseason Davis was very similar to regular season Troy Smith, tbh. I figure they were pretty much the same player. Tons of inconsistency and a low completion percentage but big plays every once in a while.
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Preseason Davis was very similar to regular season Troy Smith, tbh. I figure they were pretty much the same player. Tons of inconsistency and a low completion percentage but big plays every once in a while.
Well, we never got to see Davis in a regular season game. With good coaching, I think Davis could excel. We already know what you get with Troy Smith as he's been with two different teams, but still played awful.
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I can't find the article but last preseason Singletary asked Nate Davis how much of the playbook he knew and Davis said he knew around 2/3 or 3/4 of it.

No way he would be able to learn and understand Harbaugh's offense.
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