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Old 10-07-2011, 10:20 PM    (permalink) 
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RG III is not listed above. He is a 4th year Jr, and has already graduated. I dont see him coming back.

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Old 10-08-2011, 07:59 AM    (permalink) 
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Honestly, I don't see as many Juniors declare for the 2012 draft as we did in the past. With this rookie pay scale, some guys won't be so eagar to leave with such a pay decrease now.
Actually, I think the opposite is true. Agents will tell these guys that the goal is to get to free agency. Which you can do after 4 years now. Why waste a year in college and risk getting hurt. You're not going to make much more money by staying another year. You may move from a 3rd to 2nd, or a 2nd to 1st. But, the money on your initial contract isn't that big a difference now. But, the sooner you can negotiate that 2nd contract the better. I think it will become like baseball. Most of the elite players leave after 3. Especially, at the skill positions.
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RG III is not listed above. He is a 4th year Jr, and has already graduated. I dont see him coming back.

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Word around the site is RG3 will not come out

here is a link for source........ http://www.draftcountdown.com/ :D
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Honestly, I don't see as many Juniors declare for the 2012 draft as we did in the past. With this rookie pay scale, some guys won't be so eagar to leave with such a pay decrease now.
I agree, this may be the lowest # of juniors to declare in a long time. Financially, it is going to make a lot of sense for many juniors to stay in school to improve their draft status.
It is going to be very interesting to see how the rookie salary cap plays out in a tough sport. Many fathers will be steering their sons into baseball and basketball and in 10 years, football could find far fewer solid prospects playing their sport at the college level.
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Word around the site is RG3 will not come out

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It seems that both Justin Blackmon and Whitney Mercilus will declare. Really isn't a surprise, although I think Mercilus will regret it.
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Andrew Luck expected to Declare from a close source to him. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...l_draft_112211
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I can expect Cane underclassmen to declare quickly due to us not participating in a bowl this year.
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:43 PM    (permalink) 
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Trent Richardson says he staying at Alabama for another year.http://www.timesdaily.com/stories/Ri...staying,184622

Means Lamar Miller should declare for the draft now.
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Trent Richardson says he staying at Alabama for another year.http://www.timesdaily.com/stories/Ri...staying,184622

Means Lamar Miller should declare for the draft now.
I bet that changes. Just saying that because they have two games left.
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Trent Richardson says he staying at Alabama for another year.http://www.timesdaily.com/stories/Ri...staying,184622

Means Lamar Miller should declare for the draft now.
To be honest, that is just about the most idiotic thing Trent could do. There isn't a position in football that loses as much value by staying an extra year as the RB position. There are only so many carries in a RB and it just doesn't make sense to waste those carries in college.
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To be honest, that is just about the most idiotic thing Trent could do. There isn't a position in football that loses as much value by staying an extra year as the RB position. There are only so many carries in a RB and it just doesn't make sense to waste those carries in college.
Yeah he is probably just saying that because Alabama still has a few games left and a chance to play in the National Championship. I but when January come he will be like I Love Alabama but I got to do whats best for me and go to the NFL Draft. He also has two kids so I bet he would like a lot of extra money right now.
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Honestly, I don't see as many Juniors declare for the 2012 draft as we did in the past. With this rookie pay scale, some guys won't be so eagar to leave with such a pay decrease now.
I think it would have the opposite effect. With the rookie wage scale in place, the biggest pay-day available is when your rookie contract expires. Without the financial motivation to be a top-10 pick, I'd rather declare early, so I hit free agency a year younger/sooner.
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No way Trent doesn't declare. That would be really shocking
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Blackmon has said he is coming out after this season.
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Do we even know for sure Barkley is coming out ? He could use a good solid season to really improve his status.
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There's been some speculation that Barkley might stay for his senior year since SC is bowl eligible again next year. With the talent he has on offense they have a real chance of going to the NCAACG and some think Barkley wants that. I'd rather he just came out now...
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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/...rss_hurricanes
This article was from a few days ago but Lamar Miller said he would think about leaving if he had a 1ST Round Grade. Do you guys think he will get a 1ST Round Grade?
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Do we even know for sure Barkley is coming out ? He could use a good solid season to really improve his status.
He's going 2nd overall. Difference in money isn't worth the risk. Miami, Washington, Cleveland, Seattle and maybe KC will be willing to trade up and get a qb. Lots of demand for his services.
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Old 11-26-2011, 06:55 AM    (permalink) 
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This article was from a few days ago but Lamar Miller said he would think about leaving if he had a 1ST Round Grade. Do you guys think he will get a 1ST Round Grade?
I'd definitely give him a first round grade, he can pretty much do everything asked in the NFL at a high level. I don't think the difference between Miller and Rich is all that big.
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http://losangeles.sbnation.com/usc-t...2012-nfl-draft Matt Barkley and Matt Kalil will be a package deal, either they both leave or both stay.
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Read that to mean it isnt necessarily a package deal, my guess is they'll both go and be off the board rather early.
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