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Old 11-24-2011, 09:59 PM    (permalink
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Its a wrap, just not our night. Penalties, missed tackles, missed asignments, bad calls, over-matched upfront. I thought the short week would be too much and it seems that way. This isnt the same team I've watched for the past 11 weeks. We'll be better for it though...on to the next one.
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lol offensive line. Literally had like eight guys blocking and couldn't stop the rush
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Garbage. All three aspects.
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The few times they have shown the field after a sack there hasn't been anyone open. I'm assuming that has been true on almost all of the sacks.
The ball has to come out quicker. I dont care if its a gain of 2 yards, its better than taking a sack. I have seen guys running shallow open. I understand Suggs been unblockable but then you shorten routes. Its just no excuse too see the blitz and not adjust. Whether it be audible, protection, whatever. This looks too much like pre-season. Im not saying its all on Alex, but there have been alot of instances where he has eaten sacks he shouldn't have in this game. You can see the sacks are affecting his decision-making in the pocket.

Alot of it falls on Roman too. Where are the screens? Quick passes to the backs in the out of backfield? He's played right into the Ravens hands all night.
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Stone Hands Ginn strikes again......ballgame.
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That offensive line play was the most embarrassing thing I have seen in ages.
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A few notes -

1) OL sucked, mainly Rachal. Why is he even still in the league???
2) Quick three step drops were the only pass attempts that worked. Everything else equaled a sack.
3) The penalty on Gore that took away the TD killed our offense early.
4) Gore did nothing as usual the last few weeks.
5) The INT by Smith at the end of the first half was horrible and I dont know why they just didnt keep going down the field instead of taking the shot for the endzone.
6) Defense played great except for one important thing - no pressure whatsoever on Flacco at all.
7) The officials missed a facemask penalty on a Smith sack.
8) Coaching staff didnt make any adjustments at halftime period.
9) Whitner missing that tackle on 3rd down killed us.
10) Defense played off the receivers and a lot of that zone crap that I ******* hate. UGH.

Only positives -

1) Only allowed 16 points.
2) Only gave up 1 TD.
3) Only gave up 95 rushing yards and no rushing TD's.

I'm not happy but at least it was a road game and against the AFC. 9-2 going against the Rams and Cardinals. All im hoping for is 13-3 and no letdowns against the division and I'll be a happy camper.
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Absolutely gutted by that game. On a bigger stage we could not have let yourselves down more. Where to start:

1. OL just got flat out molested all night & nobody stood up or got angry
2. Braylon - good luck getting a contract elsewhere you *****, my gran has more heart
3. Ginn - NEVER on the field for an offensive play again
4. VD - someone pls tell the coaches he suited up tonight. Any chance we get something to him the last 3 qtrs?
5. Secondary - the front 7 are hiding alot of deficiencies
6. Alex's numbers will be average but it wasn't his fault. When he wasn't running for his life we were dropping his passes or giving up on them (Braylon!!)

so frustrated i think I'm gonna spew
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Yea but that should of at least been a first down though. Dam Gore block was clean and it was. Stupid refs
Ticky Tack, but it was called by letter...

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Article 16 A chop block is a foul by the offense in which one offense player (designated as A1
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offensive player (A2) occupies that same defensive player in one of the circumstances described
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(1) On a forward pass play, A1 chops a defensive player while the defensive player is physically
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(2) On a forward pass play in which A2 physically engages a defensive player above the waist
with a blocking attempt, A1 chops the defensive player after the contact by A2 has been
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(3) On a forward pass play, A1 chops a defensive player while A2 confronts the defensive
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Dammit Chilo.
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Hard to nit-pick Alex escaping a sack but when the showed the reply close-up, his eyes were fixed to one side of the field. Like to see him look deeper in that instance. Romo does it and gets huge gains for the Cowgirls all the time. Thats my biggest gripe with Alex, doesn't see the entire field like good QBs do. Then he short-hops a easy throw to Gore as I type this....
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**** Alex, you see the blitz, get rid of the ball PLEASE. Its not like they're running alot of combo coverages behind it. Its called a hot read....your looking like old Alex tonight.
This is where my confusion lies...

On one point you want him to elude the pressure and look downfield. The next you want him to recognize the blitz and get rid of it quickly.

If he always did option B, as you hope, he'd never have an opportunity to do option A, which you want, as well.

I agree he has average pocket awareness, but when that's the case, the O-Line can't be a historic civ.
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Alot of it falls on Roman too. Where are the screens? Quick passes to the backs in the out of backfield? He's played right into the Ravens hands all night.
Yeah there were like no screens. There were no adjustments period. Very surprising.
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We'll have to see how Alex responds the next few games. And especially against the Steelers. They'll be bringing the heat all night too.
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I hope they stomp the Rams next week.

Mostly so we can use the "same ole sorry ass Rams" line.
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If Chilo starts we're doomed.
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They were still in this game for how they played. Nobody really wowed but the D played the best; they just couldn't get off the field on 3rd down. It was also the most I've seen the Niners lose in the trenches on both sides of the ball. They beat the Niners at their exact game. Hats off to the Ravens for their effort tonight. Deck was stacked against the Niners and they still could have won it if they had any kind of flow on offense. Time to take the division next week and keep making adjustments for the playoffs!
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Having Bruce Miller next week will help. And hopefully Snyder can play. Rachal needs to be let-go in the offseason. He's not even a good backup.
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Mike Mayock summed it up best: "They (Ravens) are just killing them at the point of attack." Tough loss but tip of the cap to the Ravens. They came out and blew us off the ball.
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I didn't understand why Fangio did not blitz AT ALL
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This is where my confusion lies...

On one point you want him to elude the pressure and look downfield. The next you want him to recognize the blitz and get rid of it quickly.

If he always did option B, as you hope, he'd never have an opportunity to do option A, which you want, as well.

I agree he has average pocket awareness, but when that's the case, the O-Line can't be a historic civ.
I said when escapes from pressure and he's rolling to his right, he needs to look deep to intermediate first. That's not the same as standing in the pocket, facing the blitz. I don't understand how you could be confused. There are instances where he holds the ball too long when he sees the blitz coming his way pre-snap instead of just getting the ball out of his hands and avoiding a sack. And there are also instance when he escapes pressure(not necessarily a blitz) and he's rolling to his right and HAS TIME, his eyes always seemed fixed on a receiver running short. Those are usually times when the defense is vulnerable because he's escaped the pocket and the defense has been stretched because the LBs have to come up as he is outside the pocket, which creates big holes in coverage.
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I hope the 10 days off will help aid him to getting back on the field but if Chilo starts for an extended amount of time, we are done. Its no coiendence the line started to improve the minute Chilo was benched. Synder isnt great, but he's a far superior pass protector than Chilo and its not even close.
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I didn't understand why Fangio did not blitz AT ALL
Four words.......Torrey Smith/Lee Evans. They mentioned it during the game and I noticed it as well, that Fangio hates to get beat for long passes over the top. That's we play soft alot of times on the back-end when most ppl(including myself) want us to scheme more and bring exotic blitzes. That's just who we are as of now. We play off alot on the back-end and we want to make QBs read coverages and throw across the middle and drive down the field. If you noticed, we played Dallas the same way. That's probably how we'll play Pittsburgh as well. Teams with good speed on the outside, Fangio likes to try to keep everything in front of the safties. Very Manusky-like which drives me crazy.....but I understand his train of thought. Im just a believer in you have to mix it up against the better teams. You have to match aggression with aggression at some point.
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Four words.......Torrey Smith/Lee Evans. They mentioned it during the game and I noticed it as well, that Fangio hates to get beat for long passes over the top. That's we play soft alot of times on the back-end when most ppl(including myself) want us to scheme more and bring exotic blitzes. That's just who we are as of now. We play off alot on the back-end and we want to make QBs read coverages and throw across the middle and drive down the field. If you noticed, we played Dallas the same way. That's probably how we'll play Pittsburgh as well. Teams with good speed on the outside, Fangio likes to try to keep everything in front of the safties. Very Manusky-like which drives me crazy.....but I understand his train of thought. Im just a believer in you have to mix it up against the better teams. You have to match aggression with aggression at some point.
That's why I thought he wasn't blitzing. He should have mixed it up though. By the fourth quarter you should have known what Flacco was getting way too much time to throw the football. I don't like this Nolan-esque approach to the defensive game. You get beat so what. Hit Joe Flacco. Screw up his flow. I'd rather take my chances hitting him and potentially getting beat deep than just allow him to throw over the middle for a first down on every third down attempt hoping we'll get lucky and a Raven's receiver drops a pass. It's the same crap that happened in the Dallas game and made Romo and Kitna look good. And they don't have burners like the Ravens and Steelers do. So there really isn't an excuse.
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I'd rather seen him or Boone attempt to play RG than Chilo Rachal.
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