Green Bay Packers Discussion - Page 707

SuperPacker · 11-22-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BloodBrother

Thought I read a few weeks ago somewhere that Capers teams start to get worse defensively after the first few years

Its probably because he does so well in his first years the GMs think they dont have to upgrade the defense or keep the best players, so they get rid of them trying to save money but it backfires when Capers has no players that can get to the quarterback.

No one on the deensive line can get to the quarterback and Clay Matthews is the only linebacker that can. Ovbiously we can send loads of guys but that leaves the secondary in trouble.

Everyone is so quick to blame Dom Capers, but its hard to do the job when the players are crap!

Matthews - Class
Raji - Good
Pickett - Average
Wynn - Below Average
Walden - Below Average

J-Mike88 · 11-22-2011, 05:09 PM

We need CJ Wilson to learn how to get to the QB again.... in college, he was good at that. He needs to learn how to get the QB now, starting with Stafford.

SuperPacker · 11-22-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mike88

We need CJ Wilson to learn how to get to the QB again.... in college, he was good at that. He needs to learn how to get the QB now, starting with Stafford.

we shouldnt be having to rely on 7th round draft picks that only have a year of experience, to get to the QB though.

princefielder28 · 11-22-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mike88

We need CJ Wilson to learn how to get to the QB again.... in college, he was good at that. He needs to learn how to get the QB now, starting with Stafford.

Wilson was good as an edge guy in an even front at East Carolina and now he's forced to be more of an interior penetrator (haha that's what she said)

J-Mike88 · 11-22-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker

we shouldnt be having to rely on 7th round draft picks that only have a year of experience, to get to the QB though.

True.... but remember Cullen wasn't even drafted in any round.
It did take him some time..... isn't this CJ's second season though?
I like the guy.... I suspect he'd do better in a 4-3 as far as getting to QBs.
But I'll defer to Prince above who apparently actually watched Wilson in college?
I didn't.

BloodBrother · 11-25-2011, 02:03 PM

Erik Walden was arrested this morning on suspicion of assaulting his live-in girlfriend. Will be held until at least monday

felony charge no less

way to go dumbass. Chris Cook would be proud. Don't think we'll be seeing Walden in GB after this season. TURD. This will be quite a distraction during the week to. Media will be all over this and hounding the team regarding it

BloodBrother · 11-25-2011, 02:15 PM

and in injury news

Starks was fine, they just took him out when it was 21-0 to rest up and to see what SAine could do

Bishop/Hawk both have calf strains, but should have a chance to play

Sitton will be "hard-pressed" to play against the Giants. Has battled a knee issue all year(which probably explains why he hasn't been as good this year). McCarthy did say that Sitton WILL return this season...so perhaps we are looking at a few games missed here?

ImBrotherCain · 11-25-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BloodBrother

Erik Walden was arrested this morning on suspicion of assaulting his live-in girlfriend. Will be held until at least monday

felony charge no less

way to go dumbass. Chris Cook would be proud. Don't think we'll be seeing Walden in GB after this season. TURD. This will be quite a distraction during the week to. Media will be all over this and hounding the team regarding it

Things go from pretty terrible to down right atrocious.

J-Mike88 · 11-25-2011, 09:39 PM

Dumbfuqer Walden.
Maybe the girl provoked him or really wasn't injured at all.... the police report indicated no visible injuries, I read.
Sometimes, the women are the ones who go after the men.... it's not easy to not react sometimes.

Anyway, it looks bad, and he's dumb for letting it get this far.
He wasn't Matthews, but he was playing pretty well lately, and with Zombo being hurt constantly, and Brad Jones being nothing more than a body, this hurts.

However, next man up: Jamarri Lattimore.

SuperPacker · 11-26-2011, 06:11 AM

As Tramon Williams would say, "guys go down, guys step in".

J-Mike88 · 11-26-2011, 04:58 PM

Marshall Newhouse, except for occasional problems against Jared Allen, has been solid. Newhouse’s performance against Detroit’s Kyle Vanden Bosch was his best yet.

According to Pro Football Focus, Newhouse didn’t allow a quarterback hit, pressure or sack on 64 snaps. He could become a fixture at LT. The White Wall no more.

From Bob McGinn on the Packers report card vs Detroit:
Judging strictly by on-field performance, Erik Walden really is improving. He had 3½ pressures, marking his fourth good rushing game in the last five. Clever LT Jeff Backus struggled both with Walden's outside speed rushes and more refined hand usage. One time, Walden paused, sized up Backus and then burst by him using mainly technique. Against the run, Walden set a hard edge, disengaged from blocks quickly and kept finding the ball carrier. On the other side, Clay Matthews had three of his five pressures against RT Gosder Cherilus.

BloodBrother · 11-27-2011, 10:31 AM

Yeah, Newhouse seems to struggle early on in the game but then gets better as it goes along. Most of his mistakes are technique issues that will improve with more experience

I remember in training camp Newhouse was praised as being the most improved player on the team.

The problem now is RG. I'm not sure Evan Dietrich-Smith is a viable replacement...but they have no other option right now. If Sitton has to sit out for the last 5 games + the bye week to get back to being close to 100%...then you let him. They'll need him for the playoffs

as far as Walden goes, still a lot more needs to be determined regarding his felony domestic assault charges. His GF said she tripped and fell, but the hospital is the one that called the police. Apparently her story didn't really fly with them. Could be her trying to protect her meal ticket(Walden) or who knows, maybe it was just a misunderstanding

regardin the games today...obviously rooting for a Bears loss. That'd basically wrap up the division for the Packers

SuperPacker · 11-27-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BloodBrother

The problem now is RG. I'm not sure Evan Dietrich-Smith is a viable replacement...but they have no other option right now. If Sitton has to sit out for the last 5 games + the bye week to get back to being close to 100%...then you let him. They'll need him for the playoffs

I dont think Dietrich-Smith is a viable replacement. We could put sherrod there but I dont like the idea of moving him around loads in his first year. We'll just have t ride it out with Evan and hope its not too much of a problem.

J-Mike88 · 11-28-2011, 05:42 PM

Packers LB Walden out on bond after girlfriend changes story

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Court Commissioner Lawrence Gazeley scheduled the case for a Dec. 7 hearing and ordered Walden’s release on a $1,000 signature bond. Walden, who wore a jail-issued orange jumpsuit during his teleconference appearance, has been in jail since his arrest Friday morning.

Zakowski said the alleged victim has changed her story about what happened Friday and now says she initiated the attack and that Walden hurt her while defending himself.

The woman suffered a bruise and cut to her forehead, which required four stitches, and an injured thumb in a dispute at the couple’s residence in the town of Lawrence, Zakowski said.

While her initial statements to police implied Walden had hit and pushed her, her later statements indicated she attacked him and that he was just defending himself when she fell against the couple’s bed, striking her head on the bedpost, Zakowski said.

Investigators haven’t determined whether she is telling the truth, he said.

The NFL has moved the Packers-Raiders game on Dec. 11 to 3:15 p.m. as part of the flexible scheduling plan.

It was originally a noon kickoff.
CBS will still carry the game.

TimmG6376 · 11-30-2011, 10:39 AM

So anyone else see the article on TJ Lang? I remember people (including myself) wondering why he couldn't break through and overtake Colledge. Also explains why Sherrod was given the first shot at LG in preseason.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...134726453.html

ImBrotherCain · 11-30-2011, 11:16 AM

Really good read.

TimmG6376 · 12-01-2011, 11:30 AM

EDS on whether it bothers him that national stories about he Suh incident referred to him as 'Packers offensive lineman' rather than by name:

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“That’s fine by me, I don’t really care,” he said Wednesday. “It’s not really cool to be famous for getting stepped on. It doesn’t really matter to me. I prefer to just make sure that I take every day the same. If you guys want to make a story about me one day, that’s cool, but I’m not going to sit here and try and hog your time.”

I'm starting to like this guy.

BloodBrother · 12-01-2011, 12:14 PM

So Sitton is officially out. Hopefully this isn't something that keeps him out multiple weeks

Bishop and Hawk will be re-evaluated tomorrow. Really hope one of them can at least give it a go sunday.

bright side is that Bradshaw is likely not going to play. Osi is also out which is nice

SuperPacker · 12-01-2011, 05:20 PM

Has anyone seen the ESPN video where they are talking about whether Rodgers is a lock for the MVP? One of the "experts" was talking the biggest load of crap that i nearly stook my hand through my computer! People are just so jealous of the Packers success!

He was saying things like; The Packers have had no hard game (Lions, Falcons, Saints, Chargers), Rodgers hasnt led a fourth quarter comeback (you dont neex to when you dont trail in the 4th quarter), all the games we have won have been because of injuries or misfortunes of their players eg. Suh, Polamalu (Forgot to mention we have Clifton, Sitton, Neal, Bishop, Hawk and Collins out)

I dont know how he even gets paid to talk about football!

Rant/

Im going to bed...

jackalope · 12-01-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker

Has anyone seen the ESPN video where they are talking about whether Rodgers is a lock for the MVP? One of the "experts" was talking the biggest load of crap that i nearly stook my hand through my computer! People are just so jealous of the Packers success!

He was saying things like; The Packers have had no hard game (Lions, Falcons, Saints, Chargers), Rodgers hasnt led a fourth quarter comeback (you dont neex to when you dont trail in the 4th quarter), all the games we have won have been because of injuries or misfortunes of their players eg. Suh, Polamalu (Forgot to mention we have Clifton, Sitton, Neal, Bishop, Hawk and Collins out)

I dont know how he even gets paid to talk about football!

Rant/

Im going to bed...

It sounds like you're talking about Skip Bayless. Here's a tip: don't take anything he says seriously. Or, better yet: don't watch Skip Bayless at all. This is rather hypocritical of me since I often find myself watching First Take despite how awful it is.

J-Mike88 · 12-01-2011, 07:33 PM

Skip Bayless is an a****.
Everyone hates that guy because he's a jerk.... you might agree with him on occasion, but he's like Simon Cowell but less successful.

TimmG6376 · 12-02-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker

Has anyone seen the ESPN video where they are talking about whether Rodgers is a lock for the MVP? One of the "experts" was talking the biggest load of crap that i nearly stook my hand through my computer! People are just so jealous of the Packers success!

He was saying things like; The Packers have had no hard game (Lions, Falcons, Saints, Chargers), Rodgers hasnt led a fourth quarter comeback (you dont neex to when you dont trail in the 4th quarter), all the games we have won have been because of injuries or misfortunes of their players eg. Suh, Polamalu (Forgot to mention we have Clifton, Sitton, Neal, Bishop, Hawk and Collins out)

I dont know how he even gets paid to talk about football!

Rant/

Im going to bed...

This is most ******** criticism of Rodgers. They can't find anything else so they throw this out there. 1) As you mentioned he does what he can to avoid being in those situations in the first place 2) There have been several times he has led late game drives for clinching/tying scores and either the defense or STs let him down. I'm so tired of hearing that ****.

I can't wait until the Patriots hang 20+ on the Broncos in the first half and his best buddy Tebow is forced to try and win the game with his arm.

EDIT: If there is a valid criticism of Rodgers it is that if he does get his bell rung a little his accuracy/decision-making goes down hill.

BloodBrother · 12-02-2011, 11:28 AM

well sh*t, Bradshaw practiced today for the Giants and BOTH Hawk and Bishop aren't practicing today...which will likely mean that both won't be playing. Bradshaw is the type of RB who can give this team fits, and it will only be worse if they are without their 2 starting ILB'ers

if Bradshaw ends up playing, it might be just in a limited role, however

edit: just confirmed by McCarthy. Bishop and Hawk are both OUT. Rookie D.J. Smith will be wearing the headset for the D this sunday

Sitton and Clifton also OUT. Starks/Quarless(groin) are both probable

SuperPacker · 12-02-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BloodBrother

Rookie D.J. Smith will be wearing the headset for the D this sunday

Wow this is gonna be a big game for him! Why not give it to someone else? Anyway we should be alright, offense will be too strong for the Giants defense.

J-Mike88 · 12-02-2011, 04:39 PM

Bradshaw is a back that can hurt us.
I still hate that little bast*rd for scoring against us in the NFC title game in 2008.

This game won't be easy. I suspect there are quite a few Packer fans who assume that this will be a breeze since Brees carved them up in his dome for 49 points, and since Rodgers carved them up in week 16 last year.

Expect the Giants to play hard, play well, and to get some lucky breaks.