The Official Android Thread

[Brent]

I did a manual update to 2.3 weeks back, but I guess because gingerbread is finally being issued through automatic updates, my phone keeps telling me I can upgrade to 4.0, but when I click 'update now' it just sits there with the "rebooting now" prompt but nothing happens.

[vikes_28]

Sadly, no Galaxy Nexus yet, f u verizon.

[ImBrotherCain]

I am doing everything in my power to continue to hold out but the Razr is becoming more and more attractive.

[vikes_28]

Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

I am doing everything in my power to continue to hold out but the Razr is becoming more and more attractive.

Agreed. I'm getting tired of verizon not getting us a dang release date yet.

[descendency]

December 9th.

[ImBrotherCain]

http://www.webpronews.com/galaxy-nex...erizon-2011-12

As the official U.S. release date still hangs in confirmation limbo, Verizon sources have told CNET that the Galaxy Nexus has once again been delayed by Verizon. Earlier this week we heard rumors that the Ice Cream Sandwich-enabled smartphone would land in the U.S. on Friday, December 9th. Those leaked documents were from an “authorized Verizon retailer” that said the selling of the device could not begin until 12/9/11.

CNET’s Verizon sources say that most Verizon stores thought that they would begin selling the Galaxy Nexus on Friday, but are now hearing that the release will be delayed.

[descendency]

Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

How is that absolute ********... Most netbooks have a single core 1ghz processor with one gig of ram... They basically became obsolete when Tablets came out.

1 ghz means the internal clock operates 1 billion times per second. That's all.

Phones/tablets are running on low power ARM processors, while modern netbooks run on a low power x86 based Intel Atom processor.

The difference between the two is basically MIPS, pipeline length, ops per cycle (some processors can do 5+ ops per cycle, per processing unit), IOPS to disk drive, RAM access time, etc. Also, x86 processors have a much larger set of assembly operations that are far more well tuned (ie, you won't find any AES-256 op codes on an ARM processor, or any native AVX ones either)

All of which favor the netbook platform. Furthermore, you have a larger power supply (battery) in a netbook.

The "gigahertz myth" is worth Googling. The same things Steve Jobs said about Power PC macs vs Intel PCs is true about ARM SoCs vs Intel/AMD systems, today - that is, the clock speed numbers lie.

The only advantages I would say a tablet has over a netbook are the touch screens (they tend to be nicer than the **** in a netbook, if it even has one) and the software is custom for it so that it basically loads instantly and allows you to get to facebook much faster. If you aren't a general social network user (or a few other things), a netbook will blow a tablet away.

Consider this: if you have programs that work on a netbook and there are not necessarily free apps of them on the tablet (of equal or better quality), then you are getting a significantly worse experience. (like Photoshop has nothing even close to it on a tablet. Every netbook can run it though, even if it sucks badly.)

I like my phone to browse the web when it is inconvenient to get my laptop out, but I would never consider replacing a laptop (or netbook) with a phone.

[ImBrotherCain]

Originally Posted by descendency

1 ghz means the internal clock operates 1 billion times per second. That's all.

Phones/tablets are running on low power ARM processors, while modern netbooks run on a low power x86 based Intel Atom processor.

The difference between the two is basically MIPS, pipeline length, ops per cycle (some processors can do 5+ ops per cycle, per processing unit), IOPS to disk drive, RAM access time, etc. Also, x86 processors have a much larger set of assembly operations that are far more well tuned (ie, you won't find any AES-256 op codes on an ARM processor, or any native AVX ones either)

All of which favor the netbook platform. Furthermore, you have a larger power supply (battery) in a netbook.

The "gigahertz myth" is worth Googling. The same things Steve Jobs said about Power PC macs vs Intel PCs is true about ARM SoCs vs Intel/AMD systems, today - that is, the clock speed numbers lie.

The only advantages I would say a tablet has over a netbook are the touch screens (they tend to be nicer than the **** in a netbook, if it even has one) and the software is custom for it so that it basically loads instantly and allows you to get to facebook much faster. If you aren't a general social network user (or a few other things), a netbook will blow a tablet away.

Consider this: if you have programs that work on a netbook and there are not necessarily free apps of them on the tablet (of equal or better quality), then you are getting a significantly worse experience. (like Photoshop has nothing even close to it on a tablet. Every netbook can run it though, even if it sucks badly.)

I like my phone to browse the web when it is inconvenient to get my laptop out, but I would never consider replacing a laptop (or netbook) with a phone.

Like I stated earlier... I was comparing newer phones to older models of netbooks.

I didn't realize how far they have come in such a short time. There was a long time where netbooks only offered a single core 1ghz processor and a gig of ram. Compare that to new tablets that have 1.2ghz quad core processors and a gig of ram.

But what you said later is true as well and I stated something along those lines earlier. Windows 7 is a bloated OS for the netbook (older model) to run efficiently. Tablets on the other hand have a OS that is designed to run with those specs and tends to act quicker.

[vikes_28]

I'm thinking about going to the iphone, as terrible as it sounds. I'm gonna go play with one at verizon tomorrow....

[ImBrotherCain]

Originally Posted by vikes_28

I'm thinking about going to the iphone, as terrible as it sounds. I'm gonna go play with one at verizon tomorrow....

Your a traitor... How could you.

You would lose 4G and speed (spec wise) unless you tried to get a 4s which are hard to come by

[vikes_28]

Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

Your a traitor... How could you.

You would lose 4G and speed (spec wise) unless you tried to get a 4s which are hard to come by

Remember,

I live in a town where we JUST got the Iphone not more than a year ago. Android dominated pretty heavily in this area and i have a friend that works at verizon that says they don't sell a whole lot of them just cause it took soo long for Verizon to get the IPhone. We didn't have AT&T until they bought Alltel and all its customers. I'm just tired of waiting...

[bigbluedefense]

Is it just me, or has the designs of all the android phones become bland?

They all look the same to me. When is somebody gonna come out with a phone where it's all screen? That's what I wanna know.

[ElectricEye]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

They all look the same to me. When is somebody gonna come out with a phone where it's all screen? That's what I wanna know.

A few years from now. Nokia filed for the patent, if I remember correctly.

[niel89]

I can't wait to get the new Droid 4. I'm hoping for it for christmas. I'm still using the Droid 1 and I've just been waiting for a new quality android phone that has a hardware keyboard and 4G. I was real close to buying a Droid 3 a month ago too, thank god.

[descendency]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

They all look the same to me. When is somebody gonna come out with a phone where it's all screen? That's what I wanna know.

Aren't they that already?

[vikes_28]

****, as soon as i decide that i want the iphone and upgrade my damn mac to osx lion, the ******* galaxy nexus comes out the next day. FUCKYOU VERIZON

[ImBrotherCain]

I am waiting to buy mine from Best Buy... It pisses me off that none currently have them.

UGH

[vikes_28]

i'm going to call verizon before i go there, i'm getting the galaxy nexus if they have it, iphone if not.

[ImBrotherCain]

Ahhh Best Buy has them... Picking one up in just over an hour. Cant ******* wait!

[vikes_28]

I just picked mine up from Verizon, cool phone. now does anyone know how to download apps that I paid for from this app store without paying for them again?

[ImBrotherCain]

Originally Posted by vikes_28

I just picked mine up from Verizon, cool phone. now does anyone know how to download apps that I paid for from this app store without paying for them again?

You should just have to log in using the same gmail account you bought them with.

[vikes_28]

Yeah i figured it out, apparently the gameboy applications I had on my droid x don't work with ice cream sandwich. sad. The battery life is pretty awful, i was playing with it for maybe 30 minutes and it drained 20% of the battery, screen is almost all the way dark...

[njx9]

you can still pop the back case off and replace the battery, right?

[vikes_28]

Originally Posted by njx9

you can still pop the back case off and replace the battery, right?

Yeah, you can, but it'd be a hassle to have to charge two batteries, I'm going to call verizon and see if they have an extended life battery yet. Cause that would be awesome if my battery would last more than 4 hours.

[ImBrotherCain]

The battery isnt fully charged out of the box... You should run it dead before fully charging it. Also 4g is always going to be a battery sucker.


I got it and it is orgasmic!