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Then again, who am I kidding? Its going to be cornerback all the way.
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Then again, who am I kidding? Its going to be cornerback all the way.
I've learned to come to terms with Mayhew not drafting for need. I don't always agree with it though.
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I think OL should get top priority. LT, G, C.. we need that most. We should do what it takes for DeCastro.
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I think Kalil is the 2nd pick if he declares. If he doesn't...then Martin probably gets pushed up into top 5. Reiff shouldn't get past Buffalo. I can see almost every team between us and that point potentially taking DeCastro. So, the only question is do we take Zebrie Sanders (if he's still there), a Barrett Jones or a BPA approach.

I'd say BPA left at our spot would be these guys:

Mark Barron S
David Wilson RB
Vontaze Burfict LB
Alshon Jeffery WR
Zach Brown LB
Whitney Mercilus DE
Peter Konz C
Alfonzo Dennard CB
Janoris Jenkins CB depending on how far character drives him down
Chase Minnifield CB but I haven't seen anything from his games yet
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[quote=Prowler;2789622]I think Kalil is the 2nd pick if he declares. If he doesn't...then Martin probably gets pushed up into top 5. Reiff shouldn't get past Buffalo. I can see almost every team between us and that point potentially taking DeCastro. So, the only question is do we take Zebrie Sanders (if he's still there), a Barrett Jones or a BPA approach.

I'd say BPA left at our spot would be these guys:

Mark Barron S - We could easily be drafting in the high 20's, likely gone
David Wilson RB - will never reach us IMO
Vontaze Burfict LB - will never reach us
Alshon Jeffery WR - 2nd rounder IMO and is so slow, he wouldn't be effective in our offense.
Zach Brown LB - doubt he reaches us
Whitney Mercilus DE -the combine will decide his fate
Peter Konz C - don't think he is declaring.
Alfonzo Dennard CB - might have a reasonable shot
Janoris Jenkins CB depending on how far character drives him down - Ditto
Chase Minnifield CB but I haven't seen anything from his games yet - Ditto

It will be a long day on draft day, to see who falls to us.
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Todd McShay's first mock draft today:

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Spending another high pick on a running back would be a tough pill to swallow, but Jahvid Best has proved he's not durable enough to be a workhorse back. Wilson is a burner with toughness and improved inside running skills, and he could provide big-play potential.

Uhhhh, nope. Not going Running Back in the first round.
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McShay is on crack if he thinks we are taking a RB in the first round. Has he not seen our O-line and our secondary?
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I hope not but we all know Mayhew has been looking for a RB for the past 2 years. Not quite sure he is willing to rely on Leshoure at this point and with best's concussion problem he's about one more hit to the head before his career may be over.

With that said, and the emergence of Kevin Smith, i hope he looks to a FA RB to try and shore up our issues. I see no reason why we should avoid our obvious holes at oline and CB to fill a possible need at RB that can be fixed via FA
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I hope not but we all know Mayhew has been looking for a RB for the past 2 years. Not quite sure he is willing to rely on Leshoure at this point and with best's concussion problem he's about one more hit to the head before his career may be over.

With that said, and the emergence of Kevin Smith, i hope he looks to a FA RB to try and shore up our issues. I see no reason why we should avoid our obvious holes at oline and CB to fill a possible need at RB that can be fixed via FA
I'd feel good about Best, Leshoure, Smith and Morris next season at RB if the offensive line was upgraded. I am not willing to bail on the investments in Mikel and Jahvid (especially Mikel without ever having seen him on the field).
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He's a ******* dumbass. I love David Wilson and think that he will be a Pro Bowl back, but RB is loaded this year. Richardson, Wilson, Miller, Polk, Pierce, etc. Why the heck would we blow a 1st rounder when we can get a good starter a little later?

and on that note, yeah I don't really even think we need one. LeShoure, Best, and Smith should be able to find a way to squeak 16 games(plus playoffs) out next year.
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I'd feel good about Best, Leshoure, Smith and Morris next season at RB if the offensive line was upgraded. I am not willing to bail on the investments in Mikel and Jahvid (especially Mikel without ever having seen him on the field).
Not saying give up on any of them, simply saying I would not rely on them 100% and would hope our 3rd guy can be relied upon to carry the load if necessary.

I'd stick with best, leshoure, and smith but I would drop Morris and look at a guy like tolbert in FA
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Not saying give up on any of them, simply saying I would not rely on them 100% and would hope our 3rd guy can be relied upon to carry the load if necessary.

I'd stick with best, leshoure, and smith but I would drop Morris and look at a guy like tolbert in FA
Didn't know Mo Mo was a UFA-to-be, so I'd draft a running back in the 4th round or later, but they have to address OL, CB, LB, DE before RB, if only because of the amount of resources invested in the position already.
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I'd stick with best, leshoure, and smith but I would drop Morris and look at a guy like tolbert in FA
Yeah, I'd go to camp with those 3 backs. Then sign a vet RB, maybe Ricky Williams or whoever is out there. Also bring Aaron Brown back for another training camp.

I don't care who you are drafting but using a 1st, 2nd, and another 1st round pick on RBs in consecutive years is really stupid. You can find RBs anywhere in the draft. Pretty stupid pick by McShay.

I'd say our main needs right now are OL (OTs then OG), CB, LB, S.

Who would you re-sign out of these?

Eric Wright
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Justin Durant
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How about we sell everything to move up for Matt Kalil? 2011 and 2012 First and Second round picks should do the trick!
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1) Tulloch
2) Houston
3) Wirght
4) durant

Honestly all of them but that may not be possible. Tulloch is a large part of our defense IMO and we need to keep him here.

As far as houston and wright, unless we have a plan to replace them (upgrade not a lesser replacement) i think they need to be brought back. Either way I hope we can upgrade a little at CB.

Durant has had his injury issues and has had less than an impact than the other 3. If we needed to i would be fine with a carpenter, tulloch, levy LB core
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I'm on the "all" train with them. I like having 2 veterans at corner. If we draft a rookie then I don't want to see Smith or Berry having to start while the rookie learns the ropes. I guess I can live with just one of Houston or Wright, but I would prefer to keep both and drop Smith or Berry.

I also love our linebacking corps right now. If someone has to go then technically it should be Tulloch because Levy can man two positions and hasn't looked as impactful as he was inside. However, I would rather stockpile talent and let rookies learn like the Steelers do than have to play them right away.
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Durant was signed for 2 years. I think Houston was too, right?

Don't need to re-sign them yet. But I'd probably bring as many of them back as possible, but Avril is Priority 1.
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A RB isn't out of the picture with our 1st rounder. If a Wilson slips to us, then we may well grab him. This is a very weak draft with little depth. Most of the juniors declared last year before the rookie salary cap came into being leaving little talent for this year's draft. However, I suspect in this weak draft that there will be a run on RB's and we may never get a shot at Wilson.

Wilson could be a huge star in the NFL and what an offense we would have.

Of course, I'd like OLmen, at least 2 in the first 3 rounds but is there any talent there? I'm not seeing a whole lot.

I look for RB, and OL based strictly on BPA and think CB isn't a top priority any longer.
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Wasn't there a rookie cap anyways, basically?

Cam Newton got half as much as Bradford.
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With rumors of miami possibly moving jake long I have to ask the question... would you trade our 1st and possibly even our 2nd to get him?

An oline of Long at LT and backus at RT would be a significant upgrade over what we have now. Add another guard to replace peterman and we have ourselves a great oline.

Con side of it is cost and the question of longs durability. And of course losing our picks and the ability to add young talent. However the argument could be made that this team is very young and some veteran presence on offense could be better than adding more young guys to the mix
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I'd trade an entire draft class for Jake Long, assuming he's under contract or will re-sign here.
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Next year is his last year under contract so we'd have to sign him to an extension
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Jake Long is pretty damaged.. but I think I'd trade for him.

I wouldn't put Backus at RT though. His contract is up, and I wouldn't re-sign him unless he took a year or two for backup money.
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I would love to bring Jake Long back to Michigan. The injury he just had does concern me, but luckily he is still young and has time to recover. I think that we could get him for our 2013 1st and 2nd round draft picks. I would trade this years draft picks but we will probably have an even lower draft position next year. So this year we can draft a CB or OL if a good lineman falls to us.
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Not sure i'd let him walk. I would expect him to be very high on resigning with us. He's old and has been with this team while losing for way too long for him to want to leave now. Plus he's lived in michigan his college days at ann arbor. I think he'd give us a discount and would allow us to cut cherilus who has been a major bust IMO.

In a division where we play peppers, allen, and mathews 2x a year you need 2 quality tackles. They'll just switch sides and play away from long and manipulate the RT
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