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Old 12-22-2011, 11:20 AM    (permalink
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Mark my words, it'll be Bray. He'll be a Stafford-level prospect when he comes out.
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I wouldnt take Aaron Murray in the first round. He did submit his name to the NFL board this year to see his stock even though he is just a sophmore. He said he wasnt coming out this year but next year it could happen.
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Mark my words, it'll be Bray. He'll be a Stafford-level prospect when he comes out.
With a good year and some protein shakes, that's the type of guy he can be. He's poised for a huge season next year if Justin Hunter can come back and Da'Rick Rogers continues progressing.
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twitterverse blowing up saying RGIII, Barkley, and Jones are all leaning towards staying.
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twitterverse blowing up saying RGIII, Barkley, and Jones are all leaning towards staying.
That could make for absolute chaos next year(and this year as well) and well could end up hurting their stock, even if they have great years. It would be a great class next year....but all of them could potentially be pushed down as there's only so many slots for quarterbacks in the first round. Tyler Wilson should be putting his papers in right this second if that's true though.
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That could make for absolute chaos next year(and this year as well) and well could end up hurting their stock, even if they have great years. It would be a great class next year....but all of them could potentially be pushed down as there's only so many slots for quarterbacks in the first round. Tyler Wilson should be putting his papers in right this second if that's true though.
Absolutely agree with this.
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twitterverse blowing up saying RGIII, Barkley, and Jones are all leaning towards staying.
I may be wrong but I doubt it.
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With a good year and some protein shakes

Seriously. I like the kid, but he needs to be locked in the weight room.
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Seriously. I like the kid, but he needs to be locked in the weight room.
that or a buffet room.
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I guess he can be let out for the multiple meals a day he should be eating.
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He's listed at 210 right now. With his frame and if that's accurate, he should be able to get up to 230 pretty quickly. He's a lean guy, which is going to be a bit of a concern regardless of what he ends up checking in at....but on paper, that's actually pretty good. Rivers is a little smaller than that, even. But yeah, he looks like a tooth pick.
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He's no thinner than Bradford was as a sophomore and Bradford got up to 236 at the combine after his junior year. I don't expect size to be any kind of issue for Bray in the big picture.
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He's listed at 210 right now. With his frame and if that's accurate, he should be able to get up to 230 pretty quickly. He's a lean guy, which is going to be a bit of a concern regardless of what he ends up checking in at....but on paper, that's actually pretty good. Rivers is a little smaller than that, even. But yeah, he looks like a tooth pick.

I know he's tall, but I have a really hard time buying 210.
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He's listed at 210 right now. With his frame and if that's accurate, he should be able to get up to 230 pretty quickly. He's a lean guy, which is going to be a bit of a concern regardless of what he ends up checking in at....but on paper, that's actually pretty good. Rivers is a little smaller than that, even. But yeah, he looks like a tooth pick.
True! But at the same time it would be a very bad move on his behalf to put it all on in 1 spring/summer offseason. He would have to work on his endurance & most important footwork, because it could end up making him look really lazy ala Flacco.
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I know he's tall, but I have a really hard time buying 210.
I don't know why unless you think he is in the 190 range. 210 seems about right for him to be 6'6''. Keep in mind Jacory Harris was listed at 6'4'' 195 and by all means I really thought he was 170 soaking wet.
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I know he's tall, but I have a really hard time buying 210.
Certainly doesn't look it... but looking at some of the guys Tennessee has had drafted lately, they've been right on the money with heights and weights, aside from the obligatory rounding up an inch. Eric Berry had similar concerns levied at him and he showed up to the combine bigger than his college weight, even. So I'm not super concerned about it personally. Even still, he certainly needs to add at least 20 pounds. Ideally 30.
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Certainly doesn't look it... but looking at some of the guys Tennessee has had drafted lately, they've been right on the money with heights and weights, aside from the obligatory rounding up an inch. Eric Berry had similar concerns levied at him and he showed up to the combine bigger than his college weight, even. So I'm not super concerned about it personally. Even still, he certainly needs to add at least 20 pounds. Ideally 30.
Finally someone besides TH and I that has realized this. I remember fighting off all of the savages that were convinced Eric Berry would measure in at 5'9". The only guy I remember in recent years coming out of UT that was nowhere near his listed size was Demonte Bolden, and yeah... he wasn't really even a good prospect.
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At this point I would have it like this, Jones I am not a huge fan of and I like Wilson's toughness a lot. And guys like Glennon, Thomas or Bray could go over Jones if they have really big seasons like this should next year.


Tyler Wilson Arkansas
Aaron Murray Georgia JR
Landry Jones Oklahoma
Mike Glennon NC State
Logan Thomas Virginia Tech JR
Tyler Bray Tennessee JR
Brock Osweiler Arizona State
EJ Manuel Florida State
Brandon Mitchell Arkansas JR
Danny O'Brien Maryland JR
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I'm amazed that everyone is assuming Barkley is not gonna be in the 2013 draft. I thought for months now that it was more likely he stays than leaves. I guess we'll find out for sure in a little bit here, but including Wilson and Jones in next year's draft but not Barkley doesn't make sense when ranking the QBs.

1-Barkley
2-Bray
3-Jones
4-Murray
5-Osweiler
6-Thomas
7-Manuel
8-Glennon

right now Jordan Rodgers has a long long way to go both as a passer and physically before we can even talk about him as ever playing a snap in the NFL. Danny O'Brien? Didn't he get benched like a few games into the season.
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There's your #1. Barkley.
I think he might go lower next year than he would have this year. Bray and Wilson are coming for that ass.
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Neither one of them will knock off Barkley. Barkley is 2nd only to Luck and he's coming back making Barkley #1.
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The Tyler's well could go before Barkley. Especially Wilson. If they were to both come out, it would be a lot closer than people realize. Barkley is the clear cut number one now that he's coming back obviously...but yeah, really see that as something that could change.
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Hope Landry does not follow Barkley now
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