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Old 01-02-2012, 02:14 PM    (permalink) 
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The Jags inverview Mularkey, Chudzinsky, and now Brian Schotty....

Only Mike Martz and Cam Cameron remain on the list of terrible OCs to inverview for HC Jacksonville. Better get a move on!

But seriously...Brian Schotty? really? Are you trying to see just how bad you can make Blaine Gabbert?
He can get WORSE? Oh god I feel bad for Jags fans.
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If the Jags hire Schotty their WR's are going to run a lot of slants.
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Just a random thought, but man is it hard to choose a good NFL HC. You'd think getting a great coordinator to HC would work but it seems you have just as good a shot of flaming out as you do hitting a homerun. Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, Dom Capers, Romeo Crennel, Todd Haley, Charlie Weis, Mike Nolan, Steve Spagnuolo, Jack Del Rio...all really good coordinators, all failed as HC's (Weis in college but still).

Looking at this year's crop, the best coordinators that aren't failed HC's already are Chudzinkski, Zimmer, Jay Gruden, Dennis Allen, Darryl Horton, and maybe Rob Ryan. But you just never know how they'll pan out as HC's..just a big jump from coordinator to HC.
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I want Spags back so bad. SO BAD.

If we can't have him back, I'd love to see him go to Oakland and turn that unit into a great unit.

Just please. Don't go to the Eagles. Don't do that to me Spags. Please. Don't do that to me.

Just don't do that to me. Anywhere but Philly.
If he doesnt come here to Philly, I'd like him in Oakland also...that would be pretty cool to see.
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Oh jesus christ. He had years of mediocre Cleveland offenses, got fired, coached tight ends in San Diego, and had one good year led by Cam Newton. One!

Unless he gets to bring Newton with him, he's going to be a colossal flop. Especially with Blaine Gabbert at QB. No one can win in that spot.

"Get real." Pfft. "OMG! ONE YEAR OF CAM NEWTON BEING GOOD! GREATEST OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR EVER!!!!"
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Oh jesus christ. He had years of mediocre Cleveland offenses, got fired, coached tight ends in San Diego, and had one good year led by Cam Newton. One!

Unless he gets to bring Newton with him, he's going to be a colossal flop. Especially with Blaine Gabbert at QB. No one can win in that spot.

"Get real." Pfft. "OMG! ONE YEAR OF CAM NEWTON BEING GOOD! GREATEST OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR EVER!!!!"

I'm sure having Cam must have been a dream for an OC, but he was damn good at his job this year. But you and I have the same feelings. Any "offensive mind" is going to fail there if they get stuck with Gabbert.
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I'm sure having Cam must have been a dream for an OC, but he was damn good at his job this year. But you and I have the same feelings. Any "offensive mind" is going to fail there if they get stuck with Gabbert.
He also only did it for one year though. The NFL is such a "flavor of week" club that one year is apparently all it takes for minds to change about you.
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Jeff Fisher interviewing with Miami first thing tomorrow morning then heading to St. Louis to interview with them. Apparently he will listen to any and all offers before making a decision. Looking for best situation and not most money.

Still not entirely sure what makes him such a highly regarded HC candidate, was a consistently mediocre coach that never won it big...
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Still not entirely sure what makes him such a highly regarded HC candidate, was a consistently mediocre coach that never won it big...
Proven winner, built that titans team, very solid football teams, good personality, etc.
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Turner AND Caldwell could both stay

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...er-evaluation/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...and-a-j-smith/

If i'm a fan of either of those teams I am pissed. Especially San Diego. I can't believe some meaningless wins against Jacksonville and Oakland will help Norv and AJ keep their jobs..
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He also only did it for one year though. The NFL is such a "flavor of week" club that one year is apparently all it takes for minds to change about you.

Although I will say his tale is awfully similar to the one of Mike Mularkey...
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I'd be less pissed about Norv/AJ staying than about Caldwell staying though. Caldwell is a lifeless android who was exposed this year. It sucks when a player gets hurt, especially if that player is a future HoFer, but you have to adjust. And it took that Colts team 13 weeks to do anything.

I'd want a full blown fresh start in Indy.

At least in San Diego, the Chargers are the most talented overall team in an extremely weak division. The status quo isn't the worst thing.
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He's only got a .538 winning percentage, never won a Super Bowl, only made the playoffs 5 times in 15 years as a head coach...I mean I understand what you are saying but very solid would be how to describe him. He's a "safe" hiring, sure, but isn't the goal to win a Super Bowl?
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He's only got a .538 winning percentage, never won a Super Bowl, only made the playoffs 5 times in 15 years as a head coach...I mean I understand what you are saying but very solid would be how to describe him. He's a "safe" hiring, sure, but isn't the goal to win a Super Bowl?
I'm with you. Has a non-SB winning HC ever been this highly regarded? His claim to fame seems to be that he was good enough to not get fired by the Titans in 15 years.
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I'd be less pissed about Norv/AJ staying than about Caldwell staying though. Caldwell is a lifeless android who was exposed this year. It sucks when a player gets hurt, especially if that player is a future HoFer, but you have to adjust. And it took that Colts team 13 weeks to do anything.

I'd want a full blown fresh start in Indy.

At least in San Diego, the Chargers are the most talented overall team in an extremely weak division. The status quo isn't the worst thing.
Kansas City is just as talented with a far better GM and Crennel is a better coach than Norv, so I don't think they're the favorite next year. They NEED to stop being so goddamn cheap by retaining AJ and Norv, they have got to go.
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He's only got a .538 winning percentage, never won a Super Bowl, only made the playoffs 5 times in 15 years as a head coach...I mean I understand what you are saying but very solid would be how to describe him. He's a "safe" hiring, sure, but isn't the goal to win a Super Bowl?
In the end, yes.

But if I'm Miami, I'd take someone just getting the team to the playoffs as a start. If not for one hiccup year with a resurgent Pennington and the wildcat, they'd be right up there on that list with Buffalo, Oakland and Cleveland as having a long playoff drought.

Some stability would be nice right now for the Dolphins.
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Kansas City is just as talented with a far better GM and Crennel is a better coach than Norv, so I don't think they're the favorite next year. They NEED to stop being so goddamn cheap by retaining AJ and Norv, they have got to go.
Eh. Debatable. It's not a huge difference if there is one, plus I'll always take the team with the franchise QB (Rivers) over the team that doesn't have one in a close comparison.
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