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View Poll Results: Will Colt McCoy be a franchise QB?
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:06 PM    (permalink
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was this a serious post? 75% of that list returned to school. do you have any idea of what you're talking about?
Get your facts straight, up until about 3 years ago, 95% of college pro type QB's returned to school to finished their senior years. That was the known acceptable route to take to be a successful NFL QB.
Today, it is a whole different story. We take notice today when a QB returns to school for their senior year because junior QB's are having success in the pros, see Stafford or Newton.
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Get your facts straight, up until about 3 years ago, 95% of college pro type QB's returned to school to finished their senior years. That was the known acceptable route to take to be a successful NFL QB.
Today, it is a whole different story. We take notice today when a QB returns to school for their senior year because junior QB's are having success in the pros, see Stafford or Newton.
Damage control.

Get your facts straight - you said something asinine. It was even your list. I went off of what you said. You realize this right?
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Been collecting this for a minute-thought I'd dump it all here. Recent QBs coming in as unproven starters and how they did preseason vs reg season. Fwiw.


-------------------Comp - Att - Pct - Yds - TD - Int - Rate - Team W-L

Romo
pre 2006-----------64 - 92 - 69.6 --- 833 --- 3 - 3 - 95.1

regular----------220 - 337 - 65.3 - 2,903 - 19 - 13 - 95.1 - 6 - 4 playoffs


Leinart
pre 2007----------24 - 40 - 60.0 - 329 - 2 - 0 - 103.0

reg --------------60 - 112 - 53.6 - 647 - 2 - 4 - 61.9 - 1 - 2 pulled week 6 #Warner


Rivers
pre 2006-----------30 - 46 - 65.2 ---- 333 -- 1 - 1 - 84.8

reg---------------284 - 460 - 61.7 - 3,388 - 22 - 9 - 92.0 - 14 -2 playoffs


Ryan
pre 2008-----------34 - 59 - 57.6 --- 294 --- 2 - 1 - 75.1

reg---------------265 - 434 - 61.1 - 3,440 - 16 - 11 - 87.7 - 11 - 5 playoffs


Flacco
pre 2008-----------35 - 67 - 52.2 -- 284 --- 1 - 0 - 68.3

reg---------------257 - 428 - 60.0 - 2,971 - 14 - 12 - 80.3 - 11 - 5 playoffs


Rodgers
pre 2008-----------37 - 54 - 68.5 --- 436 --- 3 - 1 - 103.6

reg---------------341 - 536 - 63.6 - 4,038 - 28 - 13 - 93.8 - 6 - 10


Schaub
pre 2007-----------24 - 33 - 72.7 --- 242 --- 2 - 0 - 113.4

reg---------------192 - 289 - 66.4 - 2,241 - 9 - 9 - 87.2 - 4 - 7


Garrard
pre 2007-----------36 - 47 - 76.6 --- 456 -- 1 - 0 - 113.4

reg---------------208 - 325 - 64.0 - 2,509 - 18 - 3 - 102.2 - 9 - 3 playoffs


Henne
pre 2010-----------32 - 58 - 55.2 --- 346 -- 2 - 1 - 77.2

reg---------------301 - 490 - 61.4 - 3,301 - 15 - 19 - 75.4 - 6 - 8


Sanchez
pre 2010-----------31 - 48 - 64.6 --- 270 -- 2 - 2 - 75.9

reg---------------278 - 507 - 54.8 - 3,291 - 17 - 13 - 75.3 - 11 - 5 playoffs


Kolb
pre 2010-----------28 - 53 - 52.8 --- 324 -- 0 - 1 - 63.7

reg---------------115 - 189 - 60.8 - 1,197 - 7 - 7 - 76.1 - 2 - 4


A.Smith
pre 2006-----------32 - 51 - 62.7 --- 322 -- 1 - 3 - 62.7

reg---------------257 - 442 - 58.1 - 2,890 - 16 - 16 - 74.8 - 7 - 9

McCoy
pre 2011-----------28 - 46 - 60.9 -- 320 - 4 - 1 - 101.7

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McCoy
pre 2011-----------28 - 46 - 60.9 -- 320 - 4 -- 1 -- 101.7

reg---------------265 - 463 - 57.2 - 2733 - 14 - 11 - 74.6



Very Leinart like. ...actually the worst of this bunch considering Leinart got benched.
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McCoy
pre 2011-----------28 - 46 - 60.9 -- 320 - 4 -- 1 -- 101.7

reg---------------265 - 463 - 57.2 - 2733 - 14 - 11 - 74.6



Very Leinart like. ...actually the worst of this bunch considering Leinart got benched.
I'm not trying to make the case that McCoy is a great QB or can become a great QB, but I think it's at least debatable that his stats are the worst of the group.

Consider supporting cast and tell me that he wasn't at least on par with Sanchez, Henne, Kolb, and A. Smith.

Now, I agree, their progression from preseason to regular season follows a different trajectory (they stay more consistent, while McCoy took a big step down).
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Let him compete with a veteran and a rookie prospect(preferably GriffinIII). Send Seneca packing and pick up Mcnab or Hassleback.Due to lack of talent and the lockout, I feel he deserves another chance.
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I think they should bring in Flynn or Griffin III - and if they do then either one of those guys would be the unquestioned starter and future of the QB position for the Browns due to financial obligations that come with signing them. Now if we get a guy like Tannehill or Weeden in round 2 or whatever then I'd keep Colt around and have a competition. I think it's Flynn, Griffin, or bust this year though as far as addressing the QB position. We need guys who can come in right now that we can commit to .
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Interesting read.

http://www.theclevelandfan.com/cleve...nd-over-matter

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One of my goals for the offseason was to study the tapes closely and try to figure out why 2nd year QB Colt McCoy struggled with his accuracy. I wanted to find a glaring flaw with his mechanics or maybe some type of other smoking gun that would explain why a QB who played in a tough conference in college and still managed to complete 77% of his passes during his junior year and 71% his senior year canít reach the 60% mark in the pros.
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Interesting read.
Hmm...I'm not sure if I'd rather it be a mechanics issue. I don't know how easily you can repair confidence. Some guys never get it back once their broken; I think that's exactly what happens to most highly drafted QBs that don't work out...
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