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Old 01-04-2012, 04:30 PM    (permalink
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Easy the colts trade the 1st pick to the Redskins for their 2012 1st round pick, 2013 1st round pick, and 2013 3rd round pick.
The Redskins would be laughing if they pulled that off. It will take at least two number 1s and two number 2s to get the top pick.
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Keeping Peyton for 1-2 years isn't about him being "done" after those years IMO. It just allows Luck to learn, and allows the team to be a real threat.... if Peyton is still good in 2 years or so... even better, trade him for a gold mine, and build around your 23 year old elite QB who is now 100% ready to go.

tldr version: If you hang on to both, you might get the best of competing now and rebuilding.
Yeah, keeping both is the way to go. And the last two years of Manning's contract are cake anyway. His contract is SOOOO front-loaded. He's getting like $69m of the $90m in the first 3 years. So the last two, are like $10.5m/y and this will be after the salary cap will have skyrocketed from the new TV deal going into effect.

So he's extremely easy to trade if he doesn't want to retire or just stick around for the beginning of Luck's run.
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Manning can come on down to Sf and help us win a few more super bowls... Not like that would happen but it would be nice.
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Manning can come on down to Sf and help us win a few more super bowls... Not like that would happen but it would be nice.
I was thinking the same thing.It would probably shatter Alex Smith's confidence but it may be worth it.
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Luck Luck Luck Luck Luck.

You don't pass up a franchise quarterback, once-in-a-decade type prospect so your current legend can play two or three more years at the most. The colts have to weigh the choice between keeping a great for a few more seasons, or drafting a great for an entire decade. I think that alone should settle all matters.
Luck will probably be a good-great player but I am not sure how people can say he is a once in a decade player. I thought for a while Luck was underrated but now it seems he is being overrated.
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I was thinking the same thing.It would probably shatter Alex Smith's confidence but it may be worth it.
If they bring in Manning, they're done with Smith. But Manning's a machine. If his neck doesn't stop him, I have no problem seeing him go another 5 years.
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If they bring in Manning, they're done with Smith. But Manning's a machine. If his neck doesn't stop him, I have no problem seeing him go another 5 years.

That would be the idea point there. We are not going any where in the play offs until I see more passing yards and more points per game for SF...
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That would be the idea point there. We are not going any where in the play offs until I see more passing yards and more points per game for SF...
I kinda like the idea of Manning taking over at QB for a defensive, run-based team and just being really efficient and making precise throws when he needs to, instead of all the gesticulating herky-jerky he does in Indy. Just kind of a player-coach who is really aware of what the defense is doing and makes sure his offense is running the right plays, but not having to make them all himself. He could do that in SF. It'd almost be like a semi-retirement.

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Old 01-04-2012, 07:27 PM    (permalink
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I kinda like the idea of Manning taking over at QB for a defensive, run-based team and just being really efficient and making precise throws when he needs to, instead of all the gesticulating herky-jerky he does in Indy. Just kind of a player-coach who is really aware of what the defense is doing and makes sure his offense is running the right plays, but not having to make them all himself. He could do that in SF. It'd almost be like a semi-retirement.

"Yeah, I'm just doing a little work down in San Fran now. It's nice."
If he became trad-able .I just don't think Jim or the staff would pull the trigger though. But it would be a nice addition though having him would almost be like the Montana trade the chiefs did back in the day.
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I kinda like the idea of Manning taking over at QB for a defensive, run-based team and just being really efficient and making precise throws when he needs to, instead of all the gesticulating herky-jerky he does in Indy. Just kind of a player-coach who is really aware of what the defense is doing and makes sure his offense is running the right plays, but not having to make them all himself. He could do that in SF. It'd almost be like a semi-retirement.

"Yeah, I'm just doing a little work down in San Fran now. It's nice."
In this unrealistic scenario... :P I think the problem would be that Manning WOULD know what the D was doing and would audible to a pass play that would exploit it more often than not.
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In this unrealistic scenario... :P I think the problem would be that Manning WOULD know what the D was doing and would audible to a pass play that would exploit it more often than not.
Yeah, I too have a hard time imagining him audibling to run plays with any regularity. He'd want to make the play himself. Definitely a control freak, so I don't know if he'd even want to go to an offense that didn't want him to throw 30+ times a game. It's just that San Francisco really wouldn't need him to; they've already got a solid offense with Alex Smith in there, Peyton would just be an improvement. If they were to go to a "Peyton-style" offense they'd have to change a few things. I have the feeling Harbaugh likes how well his team controls the clock and field position, though. He's a no-BS coach, and I honestly don't think he'd give a **** if his QB was throwing for another 1000 yards a season.

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Back in the day, Peyton would audible to runs a ton. But when the play call goes ...

1st & 10 Pass
2nd & 1 Run
3rd & 2 Run
4th & 4 Punt

... you tend to call passing plays. That's happened some many times the past few years. The collapse of the run game put Peyton in so many awful spots, but he didn't have a choice if he wanted to score points.
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Manning can come on down to Sf and help us win a few more super bowls... Not like that would happen but it would be nice.
I think it is the #1 scenario if Manning is not paid the roster bonus in March. Manning is no dummy and SF is poised to make a strong run if they had him at QB.
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