The Coaching Change Thread - Page 32

SickwithIt1010 · 01-12-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by killxswitch

omg I think the Colts are going to keep Caldwell.

I hope to god that isn't the case. Mornhinweg makes too much sense as a hire for the colts to me.

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-12-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DraftSavant

So Atlanta is basically looking to replace Mike Mularkey with clones of Mike Mularkey.

Really, all of those guys (sans Billick under Denny Green) run the exact same offense. Terminology might be slightly different (Schotty and Koetter run more WR screens, too), but it's the same route concepts, philosophies, etc.

Ugh. Of those 3, Billick is the most attractive name to me. He seems to love Ryan, so at the very least, he'd be more likely to move our offense out of the stone age.

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Ah, my beloved philosophy of it being 3rd and 10, and the play call being a 7 yard slant that has absolutely no shot of picking up more than 7 yards.

Every Jets game I saw with Schotty at coordinator had this exact thing happen. WR runs 7 yards, catches the pass, and is immediately met by some combination of a CB, S and/or LB, tackling him immediately. The play doesn't have a chance in hell of picking up the first down unless there is hilarious bad tackling by 2-3 guys.

Good luck Atlanta.

Stop it.

killxswitch · 01-12-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

I hope to god that isn't the case. Mornhinweg makes too much sense as a hire for the colts to me.

I don't really want Mornhinweg either but keeping Caldwell is akin to punting the season.

SickwithIt1010 · 01-12-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by killxswitch

I don't really want Mornhinweg either but keeping Caldwell is akin to punting the season.

Just with the hire of Grigson and the success that Wigs has had with developing QB's it seems like it would be a match made in heaven to be completely honest.

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-12-2012, 02:57 PM

Apparently Mel Tucker is high on our DC list too. Any thoughts/insight Mr. Savant?

bearsfan_51 · 01-12-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucs147

It's the passing coordonator part that afraids me. When has Greg Olson proved to be a good play designer ? Never. His plays are so vanilla and extremely predictable. I remember during the MNF game vs the Colts when Gruden was able to call multiple times exactly what play we were going to run. You know you're bad when 5 times out of 16 games, the opposite team's defensive players say that they knew every routes our WR were going to run.

I hope you enjoy the out and curl routes Bears fans.

DraftSavant · 01-12-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds

Apparently Mel Tucker is high on our DC list too. Any thoughts/insight Mr. Savant?

Good defensive coordinator. Ran a ton of press man and man free with one-man pops when Cox and Mathis were actually healthy. That's when the defense was beasting.

BeerBaron · 01-12-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DraftSavant

Good defensive coordinator. Ran a ton of press man and man free with one-man pops when Cox and Mathis were actually healthy. That's when the defense was beasting.

Mathis is a free agent this year as well. I know he's older and coming off a knee injury, but I think he'd be a decent veteran pickup for Atlanta. Follow his DC there (possibly) and he'd be better than anyone currently there not named Brent Grimes.

Dunta Robinson is....ew.

DraftSavant · 01-12-2012, 03:43 PM

The Jags and Falcons wanna keep passing coaching staffs back and forth like STDs. I don't get it.

the_dark_knight · 01-12-2012, 03:57 PM

Yeah I know being comfortable is a big thing for these coaches, but I really hope that after this year Mike Smith sees that he's really gotta push the envelope to take another step, it's not going to be more of the consistency to pay off, we need someone who can really make use of the amazing weapons in the ATL.

Defensively Tucker doesn't seem to be a problem to me, not my #1 choice, that still belongs to Spags and I think there's no reason they shouldn't go all out and try to get him in ATL, I think that move alone would put Atlanta into a different stratosphere of coordinator that would push players to really step their game up. Plus a fresh set of eyes can eliminate some of the sub par performers on the squad.

the_dark_knight · 01-12-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Complex

Roddy and Julio are faster and stronger than the Jets WR's so running slants and breaking a couple should be easier for them. Maybe Schotty has a little more success.

BTW I read that if Marty gets the TB job that Brian will not be his OC. Either his dad knows he is a crappy OC or Brian doesn't want to work with his dad.

I'm so sick of our players having to overcome coaching, I want some coaching that stretches the players. Unless he wants to step it up and call some plays and change things up and spice it up, that's not at all what I want in Atlanta.

Billick is interesting because of the family ties, I've been waiting for that nepotism to kick in. But I honestly think that he has the ability offensively to make the most out of Turner, and still be able to spread it out and do some things in the passing game (SCREEN PLAYS) that we haven't seen in ATL much for the last 4 years.

WCH · 01-12-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

Mornhinweg makes too much sense as a hire for the colts to me.

I lived in Michigan during the Mornhinweg era. Marty doesn't make sense for any hire.

kBuc5 · 01-12-2012, 06:29 PM

Billick thinks of himself as on the same level as the Gruden's and Cowher's. There is no way he comes back as a coordinator. He is one of these guys that will want full control of the team, it's one of the reasons he isn't coaching most likely along with his price tag.

SickwithIt1010 · 01-12-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WCH

I lived in Michigan during the Mornhinweg era. Marty doesn't make sense for any hire.

He was also stuck in Detroit along side the worst GM in the history of football? He was stuck trying to win with a Charlie Batch and a rookie QB in Joey Harrington (and we all know how he worked out).

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/det/2001.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/det/2002.htm

Those are the teams this guy was dealt, are you gonna sit here and tell me this guy was in a successful situation? lol. Cmon now man, and Mornhinweg/Luck combination would be great for the Colts, throw in the amount of draft picks this team is going to aquire along the road and they start putting together a dangerous offense to surround him with.

TimmG6376 · 01-12-2012, 07:06 PM

No one has mentioned Callahan to the Cowboys yet? Seems like good move. Garrett learned that being HC/OC is too much workload. Garrett will still call plays. Similar to the McCarthy/Philbin arrangement.

Raiderz4Life · 01-12-2012, 07:09 PM

I think Callahan got a little bit of a raw deal with NYJ firing him. He's not too bad...just don't want him back in Oakland lol

the_dark_knight · 01-12-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kBuc5

Billick thinks of himself as on the same level as the Gruden's and Cowher's. There is no way he comes back as a coordinator. He is one of these guys that will want full control of the team, it's one of the reasons he isn't coaching most likely along with his price tag.

Possibly, but you forget, M. Smith is his brother-in-law so don't count it out either.

Brent · 01-12-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by raiderz4life

I think Callahan got a little bit of a raw deal with NYJ firing him. He's not too bad...just don't want him back in Oakland lol

He intentionally tanked Oakland his last year there out of spite for not doing well in the Super Bowl.

Hurricanes25 · 01-12-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by raiderz4life

I think Callahan got a little bit of a raw deal with NYJ firing him. He's not too bad...just don't want him back in Oakland lol

The Jets didn't fire him...he chose not to sign an extension.

WCH · 01-12-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

He was also stuck in Detroit along side the worst GM in the history of football? He was stuck trying to win with a Charlie Batch and a rookie QB in Joey Harrington (and we all know how he worked out).

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/det/2001.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/det/2002.htm

Those are the teams this guy was dealt, are you gonna sit here and tell me this guy was in a successful situation? lol. Cmon now man, and Mornhinweg/Luck combination would be great for the Colts, throw in the amount of draft picks this team is going to aquire along the road and they start putting together a dangerous offense to surround him with.

Matt Millen sucked, and the team sucked by extension. But part of their problem was Marty's gameday decision-making. The infamous "Mornhinweg wins OT coin-toss, decides to kick" situation comes to mind.

boknows34 · 01-12-2012, 07:59 PM

Texans DC Wade Phillips has reportedly informed the Bucs that he is pulling out of consideration for their head coaching job.

Raiderz4Life · 01-12-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurricanes25

The Jets didn't fire him...he chose not to sign an extension.

Oh nvm then...I takes it back.

ElectricEye · 01-12-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by boknows34

Texans DC Wade Phillips has reportedly informed the Bucs that he is pulling out of consideration for their head coaching job.

Good for Houston. Mediocre head coach, but he's certainly a damn good coordinator. That Texans defense is nasty and it's only going to continue to get better.

Giantsfan1080 · 01-12-2012, 08:17 PM

Callahan was mad at the Jets for not allowing him to interview with other teams last year for a better position. He left because of it.

boknows34 · 01-12-2012, 08:18 PM

Adam Schefter reports new Jags coach Mike Mularkey will retain Mel Tucker as defensive coordinator and add Falcons QBs coach Bob Bratkowski as offensive coordinator.