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Old 01-13-2012, 11:14 PM    (permalink
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#1 over even Blackmon, eh? I don't know about that...but if he could potentially push some other receivers down a bit to where the Bears would have a shot, I'll take it.
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#1 over even Blackmon, eh? I don't know about that...but if he could potentially push some other receivers down a bit to where the Bears would have a shot, I'll take it.
Or they could just draft him. He's just the type of WR they need!
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Rams will end up taking this guy #2 overall. It'll be like Donnie Avery over Desean Jackson all over again.
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Cruz has 1" - 2" and 20lbs on those other 2.
I am telling you right now that Cruz is most likely 5'10 1/2'' and maybe 190-195. He is not 6'1'' unless he grew 2 inches from his pro day.
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Cruz was 5'11 7/8" and 205 at his pro day, just throwing that out there...I would link it but I'm guessing that's not looked kindly upon around here?
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I am telling you right now that Cruz is most likely 5'10 1/2'' and maybe 190-195. He is not 6'1'' unless he grew 2 inches from his pro day.
Well...guess he grew an inch since you told him right then cause he's about 6 feet, give or take a quarter of an inch.
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This is an insanely deep WR class, rich in big, physical types. KW is the only real burner with solid intangibles and secondary skills. I think the point about Victor Cruz is well taken, as is the one about the FA list. That being said, Blackmon is my first choice.

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WR is a position where their combine performance determines their rankings. 40 time will be crucial in their rankings and Wright should time somewhere in the 4.3's.

Because he is only 5'10", he likely will be the 3rd WR off the board but if Blackmon or Floyd time poorly, he could move up. I don't think it will happen as I expect both to time reasonably well but you never know.

His game still needs a lot of work because he is unpolished as a route runner but his speed could still get him easily into round 1.
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vice versa. He MADE RG3. RG3 is so overrated on the net and in scouting circles its not even funny anymore.
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vice versa. He MADE RG3. RG3 is so overrated on the net and in scouting circles its not even funny anymore.
I agree that Wright is solid, #3 on my list but completely disagree on RG111. Solid NFL QB prospect just behind Luck in talent.
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My point is that Cruz isn't "small". He's just short. Have you seen the guns and thighs on this guy?
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vice versa. He MADE RG3. RG3 is so overrated on the net and in scouting circles its not even funny anymore.
Oh... ok... Disagree 100%.
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vice versa. He MADE RG3. RG3 is so overrated on the net and in scouting circles its not even funny anymore.
Not sure if you're serious but i'll take your word on it. I actually liked Newton better than Griffin.

On a sidenote i hope Wright's stock isnt on fire because of the Washington game, you cant really judge anything from playing JV defenses.
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vice versa. He MADE RG3. RG3 is so overrated on the net and in scouting circles its not even funny anymore.
How so? I mean he's earned this hype.
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Kendall Wright is my number one right now. I just think he's got the highest floor. I know that sounds odd, since he is undersized compared to traditional NFL WRs, but it's just hard for me to see how he could be a complete bust. With Blackmon and Floyd, I can see this as a possibility. I'm not saying they are likely to bust or anything, but they both seem a bit overrated to me. Wright will at least be a great slot WR. Is that worth a first rounder? Probably not, but I think he'll be much more than that. Great slot guy is his floor, IMO, and his upside is to be a number one receiver. I think he's a VERY safe pick.
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Man, I pray Chicago gets Michael Floyd.
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Why do we have three people called Abaddon on this site?

On topic: I like Wright. It's unfair to call him a product of RGIII. I think he'll be a legit burner at the NFL level, ala Mike Wallace.
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Why not a poor man's Kendall Wright? Why take Wright in the first when you can grab a kid like Joe Adams in the 3rd?
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Kendall Wright is my number one right now. I just think he's got the highest floor. I know that sounds odd, since he is undersized compared to traditional NFL WRs, but it's just hard for me to see how he could be a complete bust. With Blackmon and Floyd, I can see this as a possibility. I'm not saying they are likely to bust or anything, but they both seem a bit overrated to me. Wright will at least be a great slot WR. Is that worth a first rounder? Probably not, but I think he'll be much more than that. Great slot guy is his floor, IMO, and his upside is to be a number one receiver. I think he's a VERY safe pick.
I don't agree with this logic at all.

Blackmon and Floyd bring size (especially in Floyd's case) and more talent. Eddie Royal was a great slot guy in this first year, but it was never a doubt to anyone that Brandon Marshall was better. BMar definitely isn't comparable to Blackmon or Floyd, but a quick small slot receiver is no sure thing. Remember, Marshall is the guy with the major character concerns, and he gets it done every week.
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I get what you are saying. My point is that I think Wright can play any WR position, because he plays bigger than his size while still having the versatility to play inside. So he would have a chance to help a team out right away, if only as a slot guy until he got better adjusted to the pro game.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'more talent' in this context. They are bigger, but you are separating that from talent. I'm not sure how. Could you elaborate on why you think those guys are more talented than Wright?
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I don't agree with this logic at all.

Blackmon and Floyd bring size (especially in Floyd's case) and more talent. Eddie Royal was a great slot guy in this first year, but it was never a doubt to anyone that Brandon Marshall was better. BMar definitely isn't comparable to Blackmon or Floyd, but a quick small slot receiver is no sure thing. Remember, Marshall is the guy with the major character concerns, and he gets it done every week.

That's just one comparison that doesn't really do much for the argument at hand. Would you rather have Antonio Brown or Malcolm Kelly? How about James Hardy? Last time I checked a big tall, athletic WR is no sure thing either.
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That's just one comparison that doesn't really do much for the argument at hand. Would you rather have Antonio Brown or Malcolm Kelly? How about James Hardy? Last time I checked a big tall, athletic WR is no sure thing either.
I'm a Redskins fan. Kelly could be a #1 to this day if he wasn't injured 80% of the time, he has no hamstrings and we all know that's why he dropped.
A big tall athletic WR is something more teams look for, and essentially end up reaching for. Floyd and Blackmon warrant their draft positions. Kendal Wright does not warrant being taken as the #1 guy.
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I'm a Redskins fan. Kelly could be a #1 to this day if he wasn't injured 80% of the time, he has no hamstrings and we all know that's why he dropped.
A big tall athletic WR is something more teams look for, and essentially end up reaching for. Floyd and Blackmon warrant their draft positions. Kendal Wright does not warrant being taken as the #1 guy.

Yea, I'm sure it had nothing to do with him being slow as hell. And even when he was healthy he was below average every time he stepped onto the field. He played in 16 games a few years ago, started more then half. He had plenty of time to show flashes of being a good player, which he never did. He doesn't even have 1 career TD, so no, putting it off on just hamstrings is false.


I disagree in the line of thinkin that more teams are looking for big tall athetic WR's. Your looking for impact players, the best player you can have all around. I don't think there is a huge advantage 1 way or another if you have Brandon Marshall as your #1 or Mike Wallace. Both have advantages over the other, and both have disadvantages to their games, it's not as black and white as just saying everyone would prefer a big tall athletic WR anymore.
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I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.
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