New York Giants Discussion

[Big_Pete]

I think we match up well with the 49ers. It will be a physical battle for sure.

The big difference over recent weeks is the play of our Dline and Linebackers

[OSUGiants17]

So um Boley is teh sexxxxx, what a game he had.

If I had told you at the beginning of the season it would be us at San Fran in the NFCCG you'd all call me crazy!

[Damix]

Does anyone know our cap situation for next year? Is there something like Cot's for football?

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by Damix

Does anyone know our cap situation for next year? Is there something like Cot's for football?

We have a ton of free agents so we might have a decent amount of room.

[OSUGiants17]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

We have a ton of free agents so we might have a decent amount of room.

Who is a FA for us next year? I know Manningham, T2, Ross, Tolly and that's it. I know there are others, but who?

[NY+Giants=NYG]

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by OSUGiants17

Who is a FA for us next year? I know Manningham, T2, Ross, Tolly and that's it. I know there are others, but who?

Manningham
T. Thomas
Andrews
Bernard
Blackmon
Blackburn
Clayton
Goff
Grant
Hixon
Kennedy
Martin
McKenzie
Pascoe
Ross
D. Thomas
Tollefson
Tryon
Ugoh
Weatherford

Ballard is a RFA also.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Manningham
T. Thomas
Andrews
Bernard
Blackmon
Blackburn
Clayton
Goff
Grant
Hixon
Kennedy
Martin
McKenzie
Pascoe
Ross
D. Thomas
Tollefson
Tryon
Ugoh
Weatherford

Ballard is a RFA also.

Those are the guys I definitely want back. Grant and Ross depend on their price tags. I'd like McKenzie back but realistically they won't resign him, he'll retire and he's really not that good anymore anyway. Plus it would be a bad contract, and I hate giving out bad contracts.

With Luke Keuchly pretty much out of sight at this point, I want us to go after Curtis Lofton in FA.

Then we can draft Konz at 29 (our current draft position barring a SB appearance). I want Baas either moved to G or benched or cut. He's been awful. That was a bad FA signing.

[bigbluedefense]

This game in SF is going to be tough. I think it's a 50/50 thing that we go in there and win.

I know it's cliche to say, but this game is going to be determined by turnovers and redzone offense.

Whoever scores touchdowns and doesn't turn it over wins.

[bigbluedefense]

Initially, I was opposed to bringing Mario back bc I thought he'd demand more money than he's worth.

But then I starting thinking about it, and I realized that with our system on offense, chemistry is so important that you want to keep this 3 man core around as long as possible. This isn't a system that a rookie can step into and dominate right away. It takes years to master. Hell, none of our WRs are entirely great in it yet, the only WR we had that understood the system to a T was Smith.

So bringing Mario back and having that 3 man core of him, Cruz, and Nicks develop together with Manning is a smart move. And all 3 can take it to the house, that vertical ability of our WR core is pretty valuable.

We need to upgrade our oline and RB though. We need a pass catching RB and a new Jacobs type of bruising RB as our change up.

[Jughead10]

You think Smith could be cheaper than bringing back Mario. Just something to consider to free up room elsewhere. I'd also like a veteran CB on this team if Ross leaves.

[bigbluedefense]

Smith would be my plan B in case Mario demands too much. But that's a wildcard too bc you don't know how healthy Smith is and if he'll ever be healthy again.

Plus, while I love Smith, and Lord knows I love Smith, Cruz has gotten so good in the slot that I rather keep Cruz in the slot and have another vertical guy on the outside in our 3 WR sets.

If we bring Smith back, he'll be slot and Cruz will be on the outside. Cruz started the season out better on the outside than in the slot, but he's developed so much over the year that he's definitely a more dangerous slot guy now.

I think we have to give Prince a shot as our 3rd CB next year if we can't afford to keep Ross. Fwiw, Prince has looked great the past 2 weeks when we asked him to play press man. He can't play zone for ****, but he looked damn good in press man out there.

[Jughead10]

I agree about Prince as our nickel. But I still want a veteran 4 option. I would like to actually see Rolle play safety eventually. And one injury and he'll be right back there unless we have a veteran option. That RW McQuarters type. A guy who has been around the league and knows he isn't signing to start. Depth and special teams, but experience if he needs to be called on.

[Giantsfan1080]

I can definitely see a team like Jax, Cleveland, or the Rams overpaying for Mario.

[bigbluedefense]

I really liked Bruce Johnson a lot. I wonder if we can kick the dust off him and see if his knee is ok enough to be our 4th guy.

[Jughead10]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I really liked Bruce Johnson a lot. I wonder if we can kick the dust off him and see if his knee is ok enough to be our 4th guy.

Forgot about him. Great point. It's been so long since I've seen him play, but he did impress.

[Giantsfan1080]

Tryon is someone I'd like to bring back also. I have a good feeling about him.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

I am not sure I want Steve freaking Smith as Plan B. Get me a WR who can be explosive and score. The fact we have 3 WR right now that can makes us dangerous. I don't want a gimp who barely has any YAC yards. Sign another WR, if MM leaves, and if bringing Smith for cheap is an option than fine. Let him try to find a spot on the team then.

[bigbluedefense]

We need a 2nd TE too. We can't go into the season with just Ballard at TE. An injury there cripples us at that position.

Could use a 4th DT as well. We probably have to draft a RT this year also.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by NY+Giants=NYG

I am not sure I want Steve freaking Smith as Plan B. Get me a WR who can be explosive and score. The fact we have 3 WR right now that can makes us dangerous. I don't want a gimp who barely has any YAC yards. Sign another WR, if MM leaves, and if bringing Smith for cheap is an option than fine. Let him try to find a spot on the team then.

Stop insulting my Stevey.

[Jughead10]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

We need a 2nd TE too. We can't go into the season with just Ballard at TE. An injury there cripples us at that position.

Could use a 4th DT as well. We probably have to draft a RT this year also.

I'm not concerned with a 4 DT. We have Austin. We rush 3 or 4 DEs on 3rd and long. 4 DT is way down the list for me.

[Giantsfan1080]

For a team that's in the NFC Championship we're sure going to have a lot of turnover going into next year.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Jughead10

I'm not concerned with a 4 DT. We have Austin. We rush 3 or 4 DEs on 3rd and long. 4 DT is way down the list for me.

I don't see us re-signing Bernard. Which means we'd only have 3 DTs worth a damn on defense: Canty, Joseph, and Austin. And to be fair, I'm not the biggest Austin fan. So we really only have 2 dependable DTs on the roster as far as I'm concerned.

I wouldn't mind drafting a 4th guy to push the other 3 for playing time. Depth can't hurt. I'm not saying draft 1 in the first 3 rounds, but a guy in the 4th would be nice.

[Jughead10]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I don't see us re-signing Bernard. Which means we'd only have 3 DTs worth a damn on defense: Canty, Joseph, and Austin. And to be fair, I'm not the biggest Austin fan. So we really only have 2 dependable DTs on the roster as far as I'm concerned.

I wouldn't mind drafting a 4th guy to push the other 3 for playing time. Depth can't hurt. I'm not saying draft 1 in the first 3 rounds, but a guy in the 4th would be nice.

I guess. I'd rather take TE, RB, 2 OL, or even 2 LB before we even touched DT. Obviously we will go BPA, but those are all greater need in my opinion.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

For a team that's in the NFC Championship we're sure going to have a lot of turnover going into next year.

There's a ton of turnover every year though. Compare our starting roster at the end of the 2010 season to our roster right now. We had a ton of turnover this year compared to last year.

And next year will be no different. And the year after that and the year after that etc. It's why drafting well is so important to having a consistently great team.

Thank God for Jerry Reese.