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Old 01-24-2012, 09:29 PM    (permalink
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Very early on here are a few of my top late round prospects for the 2012 draft. A very deep draft class and a few possible stars if teams keep their eye out.

So who are you watching out for in the late rounds?



*Darius Fleming OLB Notre Dame 3-4: Very stout run defender, strong at the point of attack, and ideal 3/4 OLB in any system, could play inside or out.


*Kyle Wilber OLB Wake Forest 4-6: Big long kid, good edge rusher with worlds of potential and athletic ability, if he fills out he could be a terror off the edge.


*Brandon Boykin CB Georgia 3-5: Very underrated corner, solid in coverage, good tackler, big time speed, has return abilities as a punt or kick return man.


*Jermarcus Hardrick OT Nebraska 5-7: Could be a starting tackle in the NFL if he keeps improving, has really long arms and quick feet.


*Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State: 3-5: Some do not like the kid but he is smart and tough as they come. Great leader on the football field and has amazing poise and performs in the clutch.


*Brandon Bolden RB Ole Miss: 5-7: Not a star but is a very sound back and is more complete than some of the others backs coming out, he has size and speed.


*Keshawn Martin WR Michigan State 4-6: Had a fine season, really great return man, can make people miss and is a improving receiver.


*Nick Gentry DE Alabama 3-5: A stud late in the season, a beast off the edge as a 3/4 pass rushing DE, could be taken earlier than expected just because of how he can get to the quarterback.


*Justin Johnson WR Houston 6-7: Big tall target, nice hands, good frame and has a wide body. Could be a good pickup if he shows he can be a proven route runner and has some speed.


*Chris Marve ILB Vanderbilt 5-6: A little bull at inside linebacker, could be a fine 3/4 ILB ideally and with his aggressive play some team will try him out.


*Dwight Bentley CB Lousiana Lafayette 4-7: Small corner but plays big, is a confident player with fine athletic ability and open field speed, plus more than solid ball skills.


*Antonio Allen SS South Carolina 6-7: Not as productive as he should have been in college, but is a fine athlete and could become a possible SS or OLB at the next level.


*Johnson Bademosi CB/FS Stanford 4-6: Love his size and long arms, very solid in coverage and can cover bigger receivers, has ability to more to FS possibly as well.


*Trenton Robinson FS Michigan State 3-5: A very underrated safety, had a great year and is solid in coverage and is a fine tackler. Some might sleep on him but this kid can play.


*Bruce Figgins FB/TE Georgia: 4-7: Has ability to play tight end of full back, that could make him very interesting to a lot of teams.
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Found this to be interesting as well, these are the numbers of players drafted by position in the draft according to each position. Averaging over 5 seasons 2006-2010.


Quarterback 11.8

Runningback 18.4

Fullback 4

Wide Receiver 32.8

Tight End 16.6

Offensive Tackle 19.6

Offensive Guard 14.8

Center 5.6

Defensive End 22

Defensive Tackle 20

Linebacker 32.2

Corner Back 30.8

Safety 22.4

Kicker 1.8

Punter 1.8





Very surprised the number of linebackers drafted is almost higher than wide receivers, but then again with 3/4 defenses many linebackers are more like defensive ends really.
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He's doing well this week so far, but Marvin Jones is a WR I like.
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Justin Johnson from Houston is 6'1 not 6'7. Might want to check your sources.
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Read it again, clearly players are not 4-7 either, it is just the rounds where I think they might be drafted. Thus the range of where they might go in the draft late in the draft not their height.
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Top late round prospects are actually 1st and 2nd rounders....if you reallllly think about it
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Bolden is going to be a great pick up for somebody, he was stuck on a **** team for a few seasons but is a complete back.
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Well he did say, "big tall target" too, which he really isnt lol...
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One of the most consistently deep positions in the draft, wide receiver has its fair share of prospects this year. And might have called it too soon with Justin Johnson, fine prospect in my opinion thought he could be a late round draft pick, but will be hard to be in the top 32 receivers taken in the draft with this group. There are a few guys in the 33-57 group, along with Johnson who could easily jump up into the draft and others could fall out.

Note not all the receivers are on this list because I have not seen them all play and some I was not that impressed with and others may have been.




Wide Reciever:


#1-20 (Rounds estimate 1-5)
Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State RS JR
Michael Floyd Notre Dame
Alshon Jeffery South Carolina JR
Kendall Wright Baylor
Mohamed Sanu Rutgers JR
Jarius Wright Arkansas
Ryan Broyles Oklahoma RS
Jeff Fuller Texas A&M
Dwight Jones UNC
Rueben Randle LSU
Chris Owusu Stanford
Stephen Hill Georgia Tech JR
Joe Adams Arkansas
Ty Hilton Florida International
BJ Cunningham Michigan State
Tommy Streeter Miami FL
Juron Criner Arizona
TJ Graham NC State
Eric Page Toledo JR
Marvin McNutt Iowa




#21-32 rounds estimated (5-7)
Jermaine Kearse Washington
AJ Jenkins Illinois
Nick Toon Wisconsin
Chris Givens Wake Forest
Devon Wylie Fresno State
Greg Childs Arkansas
Mike Willie Arizona State
Keshawn Martin Michigan State
Travis Benjamin Miami FL
Keith Nichol Michigan State
DJ Woods Cincinnati
Da'Jon McKnight Minnesota
DeVier Posey Ohio State



#33-56 (Possible late round or undrafted free agents)
Derek Moye Penn State
Nelson Rosario UCLA
Damarlo Belcher Indiana
Justin Johnson Houston
Marquis Maze Alabama
Kris Burd Virginia
Junior Hemingway Michigan
Rod Streater Temple
Jarrett Boykin Virginia Tech
Dejuan Miller Oklahoma
Damaris Johnson Tulsa
James Rodgers Oregon State
Jarmon Forston NA
Gino Crump Arizona
Roy Roundtree Michigan
LaRon Byrd Miami FL
Antoine Hicks TCU
Taylor Embree UCLA
Bert Reed Florida State
Malcolm Williams Texas
Taiwan Easterling Florida State
Martavious Odoms Michigan
Aldarius Johnson Miami FL
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#33-56 (Possible late round or undrafted free agents)
Derek Moye Penn State
Nelson Rosario UCLA
Damarlo Belcher Indiana
Justin Johnson Houston
Marquis Maze Alabama
Kris Burd Virginia
Junior Hemingway Michigan
Rod Streater Temple
Jarrett Boykin Virginia Tech
Dejuan Miller Oklahoma
Damaris Johnson Tulsa
James Rodgers Oregon State
Jarmon Forston NA
Gino Crump Arizona
Roy Roundtree Michigan
LaRon Byrd Miami FL
Antoine Hicks TCU
Taylor Embree UCLA
Bert Reed Florida State
Malcolm Williams Texas
Taiwan Easterling Florida State
Martavious Odoms Michigan
Aldarius Johnson Miami FL
I really like Nelson Rosario (maybe just cuz i saw him play quite a few times in HS and he was voted the best SD HS player my freshman year in HS). He's one of those guys who's gonna blow up the workouts, got great speed, and elite size, and is a high jumper on UCLA's track team.

But I'd have up on Malcolm Williams, he doesn't even play football. He decided not to play for the team this year.

But as for other late rounders, I LOVE me some Delano Johnson. I just put a thread up on him in this forum, but i got no responses. He's gonna be a beast, and is one of those guys that you just feel has that "it" factor and will do anything to make it.

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#21-32 rounds estimated (5-7)
Jermaine Kearse Washington
AJ Jenkins Illinois
Nick Toon Wisconsin
Chris Givens Wake Forest
Devon Wylie Fresno State
Greg Childs Arkansas
Mike Willie Arizona State
Keshawn Martin Michigan State
Travis Benjamin Miami FL
Keith Nichol Michigan State
DJ Woods Cincinnati
Da'Jon McKnight Minnesota
DeVier Posey Ohio State
I would suggest watching Chris Givens again. Kid is electric.
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But I'd have up on Malcolm Williams, he doesn't even play football. He decided not to play for the team this year.

But as for other late rounders, I LOVE me some Delano Johnson. I just put a thread up on him in this forum, but i got no responses. He's gonna be a beast, and is one of those guys that you just feel has that "it" factor and will do anything to make it.
Rosario I like, but his lack of production in college is an issue, then again had awful quarterback play year in and year out. Could be a beast in the NFL because he already is one physically, should be a guy that is drafted, really depends a lot on his speed though.

I did not know Malcolm Williams did not play football, not a surprise he was really underachieving last season.

As for this Johnson guy, thought at first it was Boise State, but yeah with those measurables he will get a look for sure.




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I agree but hard to put him over some of those other guys, no way he is above Jarius Wright at this point as a big play receiver. Stephen Hill arguably has more potential long term and talk electric that is Ty Hilton and Eric Page, much less TJ Graham and his world class speed. But yeah could totally make the case for him to be moved up to that 1-20 group that is for sure and I probably have not seen as much of him as I should have. But talk one man show, AJ Jenkins was literally 50% of the offense for Illinois this season, so there are a lot of explosive players out there. Givens has some toughness and route running some others do not have though.












The surprising number of an average of 30 corners drafted per draft the past five years. This is how that could shake out. A few corners that are listed could easily be moved or switched to free safety potentially. And even in the late rounds a few really good players are there.


Cornerbacks:

#1-15 (estimated rounds 1-3)
Morris Claiborne LSU JR
Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama JR
Janoris Jenkins North Alabama
Alfonzo Dennard Nebraska
Stephon Gilmore South Carolina JR
Leonard Johnson Iowa State
Jayron Hosley Virgina Tech JR
Casy Heyward Vanderbilt
Brandon Boykin Georgia
Mike Harris Florida St
Donnie Fletcher Boston College
Chase Minnifield Virginia
Jamell Fleming Oklahoma
Ron Brooks LSU
Cliff Harris Oregon JR

#16-30 (estimated rounds 4-6)
Charles Brown UNC
Dwight Bentley Lousiana Lafayette
Johnson Bademosi Stanford (FS?)
Terrence Frederick Texas A&M
Randall Burden Kentucky
Josh Robinson UCF JR
Jerrell Gavins Boise State
Greg McCoy TCU
Coryell Judie Texas A&M
Robert Blanton Notre Dame
Akeem Auguste South Carolina (FS?)
Ter'Ran Benton Iowa State (FS?)
Chaz Powell Penn State
C.C. Whitlock South Carolina
Coty Sensabaugh Clemson


#31-34 (estimated round 7)
JoJo Nicolas Miami FL (FS?)
Jordan Mabin Northwestern
Omar Bolden Arizona State
Gary Gray Notre Dame



The best tackling corners in the draft, a few flat out great ones and more often than not the corners that can tackle stick around.


Morris Claiborne LSU JR
Mike Harris Florida St
Janoris Jenkins North Alabama
Stephon Gilmore South Carolina JR
Charles Brown UNC
Leonard Johnson Iowa State
Robert Blanton Notre Dame
Donnie Fletcher Boston College
Jamell Fleming Oklahoma
Ron Brooks LSU
Akeem Auguste South Carolina
Ter'Ran Benton Iowa State




These very promising prospects have been granted medical redshirts and will be able to play another season of college football next year.

TJ Bryant USC and Troy Stoudermire Minnesota
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Bolden (Ole Miss), Brown (KSU), Poole (Tenn), and Ballard (Miss)...from that bunch we'll have the surprise 3rd best RB from this draft next year.
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I am not so sure about that, especially with Brown, kid has huge red flag character issues. Those prospects could be the 3rd best RB in the draft but it would be hard for any of them to beat these guys, all of which could be that same thing....

Lamar Miller Miami FL RS SOPH
Doug Martin Boise State
Bernard Pierce Temple
Chris Polk Washington
Edwin Baker Michigan State
Robert Turbin Utah State
Isaiah Pead Cincinnati







In terms of all the prospects this is how it might turn out. A lot of depth at the top and a few solid stars late potentially.


Runningbacks:

#1-10 (estimated rounds 1-3)
Trent Richardson Alabama JR
David Wilson Virginia Tech
Lamar Miller Miami FL RS SOPH
Doug Martin Boise State
LaMichael James Oregon JR
Chris Polk Washington
Brandon Bolden Ole Miss
Bernard Pierce Temple
Edwin Baker Michigan State
Isaiah Pead Cincinnati

#11-25 (Estimated rounds 4-6)
Robert Turbin Utah State JR
Vick Ballard Miss State
Cyrus Gray Texas A&M
Chris Rainey Florida
Lennon Creer Lousiana Tech
Tauren Poole Tennessee
Chris Relf Miss State
Jonas Gray Notre Dame
Adonis Thomas Toledo
Foswhitt Whittaker Texas
Marc Tyler USC
Ronnie Hillman San Diego State RS SOPH
Broderick Green Arkansas
Montel Harris Boston College
Victor Anderson Louisville

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Bobby Rainey Western Kentucky
DJ Harper Boise State
Stephfon Green Penn State
Roddy Jones Georgia Tech
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Brock Jackolski top small school back 2012 draft


"5'10 200 pounds 4.4 speed For his senior year Brock is first-team All-Big South at running back and second team at kick returner ... rushed for 1,418 yards and 16 touchdowns ... three receiving TDs and a kick return TD ... 20 TDs are the most in a season in Big South history ... 2,441 all-purpose yards are the most in conference history ... six games of more than 100 yards rushing ... 11 of 13 games of 150 all-purpose yards or more ..


.Junior: All-Big South first-team selection at running back and second-team selection at kick return ... totaled 1,966 yards (1,029 rushing, 788 kick return, 149 receiving) ... finished with 12 touchdowns (nine rushing, two receiving, one kick return) ... led the Big South and eighth nationally with 178.7 all-purpose yards per game ... part of a rushing attack that ranked eighth in FCS"

This guy would have put insane numbers up if given more carries, the coach has some weird policy with splitting carries between 2 backs, its been that way for a while from what I have read. The other guy is decent but not pro material. Brock ran a 4.38 at a Nike Combine out of high school, its been said he is in the 4.4 range right now because bulked up but could probably get back down to high 4.3.

I know it says late round prospects but he might go undrafted, but his 40 time should knock him into the draft. Either way he could be a steal. Could see him being a nice change of pace back

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Taveon Rodgers, WR, NMSU. Arguably one of the best return men in the country. I think he will get selected for a spot on special teams later in the draft.
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Anyone see Morgan State WR/TE LaMont Bryant play?

6'4" 220lbs 4.5 40.


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I love this stuff! Got some for you all:
Tashaun Gipson CB Wyoming 6' 203
Ryan Miller OL Colorado 6'8" 300
David Molk C Michigan 6'2" 290
Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma 5'11" 195
Trumaine Johnson CB Montana 6'2" 205
Nate Potter OT Boise St. 6'6" 300
Bobby Rainey RB W.Kentucky 5'7" 207
Lennon Creer RB LA. Tech 6' 215
Patrick Edwards WR Houston 5'9" 180
LaVon Brazill WR Ohio U. 5'10" 199
Derrick Coleman FB/HB UCLA 6' 240
Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma 5'10" 190 (ACL)
Nelson Rosario WR UCLA 6'5" 220
Tom Compton OT S.Dakota 6'6" 315
Greg Childs WR Arkansas 6'3" 217
TY Hilton WR Fla. Intl. 5'10" 185
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Kevin Koger-TE-Michigan, Got lost in that spread offense for four years, Has great bulk and is one of this year's better blocking Tight Ends. Has deceivingly-good receiving skills, and very soft hands, made a few nice red-zone receptions while playing for Big Blue. Reminds me a lot of David Johnson of the Steelers but with better hands - short and compact, powerful blocker who may see a great deal of time at FB as well. I think Koger has great value in the 6-7th round.
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No Ryan Steed in those corner rankings?

EDIT: Didn't realize this thread is a few weeks old, but still..
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An interesting prospect that no one mentions and is not ranked on most lists is Penn State's OL Quinn Barham.

Because Penn State didn't really have any other options, Barham was forced to start at LT for 2 years, but clearly he doesn't project at OT on the next level.

However, before his junior year he played as a Center and he is familiar with that position. I think he would be considered among the better OC prospects in this draft had he played that position throughout his college career.
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