2012 Big Ten Thread

bearsfan_51 · 02-01-2012, 03:16 PM

Might as well get this started!

Please someone else other than keylime and treat post in this thing. For as many midwesterners as there are on this board, so few of them seem to care about college football.

bearsfan_51 · 02-01-2012, 03:28 PM

I'll start by posting my final recruiting rankings (top recruit in parentheses):

1) Ohio State (Noah Spence-DE)
2) Michigan (Kyle Kalis-OL)
3) Iowa (Faith Ekakitie-DE)
4) Michigan State (Monty Madaris-WR)
5) Nebraska (Michael Rose-LB)
6) Penn State (Eugene Lewis- WR)
7) Wisconsin (Vince Biegel- LB)
8) Minnesota (Andre McDonald-WR)
9) Indiana (Kevin Davis- WR)
10) Northwestern (Ideafi Odenigbo-DE)
11) Purdue (Ryan Watson- DE)
12) Illinois (Tajarvis Fuller-DB)

Jordan Diamond could shake things up a bit.

djp · 02-01-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

I'll start by posting my final recruiting rankings (top recruit in parentheses):

1) Ohio State (Noah Spence-DE)
2) Michigan (Terry Richardson-CB)
3) Iowa (Faith Ekakitie-DE)
4) Michigan State (Monty Madaris-WR)
5) Nebraska (Michael Rose-LB)
6) Penn State (Eugene Lewis- WR)
7) Wisconsin (Vince Biegel- LB)
8) Minnesota (Andre McDonald-WR)
9) Indiana (Kevin Davis- WR)
10) Northwestern (Ideafi Odenigbo-DE)
11) Purdue (Ryan Watson- DE)
12) Illinois (Tajarvis Fuller-DB)

Jordan Diamond could shake things up a bit.

What happened to Dinero Moss? I see he hasn't signed LOI, I figured he'd be #1 on name alone ;)

bearsfan_51 · 02-01-2012, 04:07 PM

Didn't have the grades. Happens a lot when you recruit the Miami area.

djp · 02-01-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Didn't have the grades. Happens a lot when you recruit the Miami area.

So you're saying the Miami public school system isn't up to par...?

Year of the Bull is a great, great documentary that touches more on the culture/academics down there.. highly recommend it if you haven't seen it.

Anyways, pretty pumped about the class Kill brought in... hopefully he can develop them.. particularly the defensive backfield.. don't know if I can stand to watch the Kyle Henderson's (who I went to middle school with, btw) of the world playing CB any more.

ryno626 · 02-01-2012, 04:26 PM

Did Alex Kozan end up signing with Iowa? Rumors have been flying around that he is back on the market and Hoke is making a one more run at him.

iowatreat54 · 02-01-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ryno626

Did Alex Kozan end up signing with Iowa? Rumors have been flying around that he is back on the market and Hoke is making a one more run at him.

Not that I'm aware of. I've read he is rethinking, so Iowa filled his spot with someone else. I've read he's still planning on Iowa but wants to make sure. I've read Michigan is full/waiting for Diamond, so now he's leaning toward Auburn.

No idea what to think, but he skipped his school's signing ceremony so who knows...

So for Iowa, I think we go 6-6 this year, optimistically 8-4. We will have a pretty new OL and prob a true soph or frosh at RB so it'll be interesting if we revert back to our 2004 no RB offense. Defense will have a really new, but talented DL. LB should be a serious strength, but secondary will be young but talented like the DL. Will be interesting to see who our new DC is.

I think standings will be something like:

Legends
Nebraska
Michigan
MSU
Iowa
Minnesota
jNW

Leaders
OSU (yea, I said it)
Wisconsin
Purdue
Illinois
Penn St
Indiana

Some kinda bold predictions with absolutely no basis other than it's February 1. I reserve all rights to change my mind 50 times before the start of the season.

iowatreat54 · 02-01-2012, 07:00 PM

Also

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...r-scholarships

Yes, we're the Big Ten and we are academically and morally superior to you.

No but seriously I'm actually really happy about this. Anyone think schools will be able to use this while recruiting? Guaranteed 4 years vs. risking being replaced 2 years in and having to pay your own way at Alabama during your senior year.

P-L · 02-01-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

I'll start by posting my final recruiting rankings (top recruit in parentheses):

1) Ohio State (Noah Spence-DE)
2) Michigan (Kyle Kalis-OL)
3) Iowa (Faith Ekakitie-DE)
4) Michigan State (Monty Madaris-WR)
5) Nebraska (Michael Rose-LB)
6) Penn State (Eugene Lewis- WR)
7) Wisconsin (Vince Biegel- LB)
8) Minnesota (Andre McDonald-WR)
9) Indiana (Kevin Davis- WR)
10) Northwestern (Ideafi Odenigbo-DE)
11) Purdue (Ryan Watson- DE)
12) Illinois (Tajarvis Fuller-DB)

Jordan Diamond could shake things up a bit.

I think Aaron Burbridge is easily Michigan State's top recruit, but I pretty much agree with those team rankings.

ryno626 · 02-02-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by iowatreat54

Not that I'm aware of. I've read he is rethinking, so Iowa filled his spot with someone else. I've read he's still planning on Iowa but wants to make sure. I've read Michigan is full/waiting for Diamond, so now he's leaning toward Auburn.

Michigan had some guys transfer out during the season so wouldn't that free up some scholarships? Or is that not how it works?

bearsfan_51 · 02-02-2012, 10:33 AM

I think Minnesota will finish with 5, maybe 6 wins. Making a bowl would be a really good thing for this team after missing out the last two years.

-Our OOC schedule replaces USC with Syracuse, so that's nice, along with replacing FCS champ North Dakota State with the type of FCS team you're supposed to schedule (the one you know you can beat). We're also in year 2 of a multi-year rebuilding job.

-On the downside, the team is weak on seniors and juniors, due to so many decommitments and kids failing out when Brewster was fired.

-On the upside, one of those seniors if Marqueis Gray, who will once again make Iowa his personal ******.

iowatreat54 · 02-02-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ryno626

Michigan had some guys transfer out during the season so wouldn't that free up some scholarships? Or is that not how it works?

That's how it works, you're correct.

As I understand it, the Big Ten has said you can only sign 3 player over what you currently have available, and the max you can sign is either 27 or 28. With that, transfers open up your spots, gray shirts don't count until next year's class, and JUCO recruits count towards whatever class they would be (so a JUCO soph. signed in 2012 counts against the 2010 class, not the 25 you get for 2012).

All these conditions is what make it confusing because you have to look at who left, and then if the school awarded any scholarships to walk ons, or if any current commits will be grayshirts. I'm guessing Iowa and Auburn all would have room for Kozan, or in the case of Michigan Kozan or Diamond.

keylime_5 · 02-02-2012, 10:17 PM

I really.....really, really ******* hate michigan. that is all.

Hines · 02-02-2012, 11:10 PM

I'm excited to see the new staff in action with a full year of recruiting and in scheme.

sunnyintheD · 02-02-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by P-L

I think Aaron Burbridge is easily Michigan State's top recruit, but I pretty much agree with those team rankings.

Gotta say Arnett would be the big get especially if he gets the waiver.

mriforgot · 02-03-2012, 01:16 AM

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Gotta say Arnett would be the big get especially if he gets the waiver.

If Arnett gets a waiver, I think he's going to be in a starting slot come the beginning of the season. As it stands, MSU's wide receiver corps is very raw, with little playing experience outside of Bennie Fowler.

dolphinfan2k5 · 02-03-2012, 02:03 AM

Didn't realize there were this many Minnesota fans on here. Does anyone else go here?

Grizzlegom · 02-03-2012, 07:52 AM

I'm happy with Penn State's recruiting class overall all things considered. Pretty excited to see how things go with the new staff. I'm also interested in seeing what our QB depth chart looks like next year. McGloin is the clear-cut favorite to be the starter but with a coach that actually knows QBs in BOB, I wonder if things will change. Paul Jones and Rob Bolden are both still more physically talented than McGloin. Perhaps Bolden will once again seek a transfer now that Paterno won't be there to block him? I wouldn't be opposed to it at this point.

Grizzlegom · 02-03-2012, 09:16 AM

http://blog.pennlive.com/pasports/20...recruitin.html

Meyer already thoroughly pissing off the rest of the Big Ten. Apparently you can take Urban Meyer out of the SEC but you can't take the SEC out of Urban Meyer. Should be interesting...

JoeJoeBrown · 02-03-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzlegom

http://blog.pennlive.com/pasports/20...recruitin.html

Meyer already thoroughly pissing off the rest of the Big Ten. Apparently you can take Urban Meyer out of the SEC but you can't take the SEC out of Urban Meyer. Should be interesting...

A bunch of lazy, hypocritical pussies are whining about him.

BTW, this is what Meyer said today at an Ohio HS coaches clinic.

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"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," he said motioning to his assistants in the front of the room.

"Do it a little harder next time."

Sloopy · 02-03-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzlegom

http://blog.pennlive.com/pasports/20...recruitin.html

Meyer already thoroughly pissing off the rest of the Big Ten. Apparently you can take Urban Meyer out of the SEC but you can't take the SEC out of Urban Meyer. Should be interesting...

This whole gentlemen's agreement was broken awhile ago by the team from up north with Rich Rod.

Either way, times are changing and nothing about it is illegal per NCAA rules.

JoeJoeBrown · 02-03-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sloopy

This whole gentlemen's agreement was broken awhile ago by the team from up north with Rich Rod.

Either way, times are changing and nothing about it is illegal per NCAA rules.

I mean, Dantonio, one of the biggest bitches in this, flipped Pittman from OSU.

Hell, here is a great article on Bielema's and Dantonio's hypocrisy.

bearsfan_51 · 02-03-2012, 10:51 AM

There must be something more to it. Bielema even said that there were things he wasn't able to talk about yet.

Either way, the idea of a gentleman's agreement is silly; Meyer is totally right on that. And Bielema is a douche, but we already knew that.

bearsfan_51 · 02-03-2012, 10:53 AM

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Didn't realize there were this many Minnesota fans on here. Does anyone else go here?

I don't go to Minnesota anymore, but I'm pretty sure djp does, as does Prince (the poster, not the singer).

keylime_5 · 02-03-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

There must be something more to it. Bielema even said that there were things he wasn't able to talk about yet.

Either way, the idea of a gentleman's agreement is silly; Meyer is totally right on that. And Bielema is a douche, but we already knew that.

During the quiet period, Meyer couldn't contact Kyle Dodson directly, so he got his brother to be the middle man.

Bielema is bitching just to *****. Dodson was never gonna go to Wisconsin once he started taking visits. If Urban Meyer and Ohio State didn't get him then Lane Kiffen and USC were going to. He's just butthurt that Meyer recruited one of his players.