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Old 11-15-2011, 05:36 PM    (permalink
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It's hard to see him falling out of round one only because I don't see 32 players better than him in this class, at least not yet. It's getting closer by the day, but he's still got top-32 upside for now. I definitely have Blackmon and Floyd head and shoulders above him right now, it's been that way for me for months but until recently I don't think I was in the majority.

At the same time, we definitely may have a Dwayne Jarrett/Limas Sweed situation on our hands here.
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It's hard to see him falling out of round one only because I don't see 32 players better than him in this class, at least not yet. It's getting closer by the day, but he's still got top-32 upside for now. I definitely have Blackmon and Floyd head and shoulders above him right now, it's been that way for me for months but until recently I don't think I was in the majority.

At the same time, we definitely may have a Dwayne Jarrett/Limas Sweed situation on our hands here.
I completely agree and have been saying so for a long time. Round 2 guy for me.
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Interesting. I disagree with both of you. A top 10 guy, he is not. But a top 25 guy, most definitely. He dominates and I see him as not a Calvin Johnson/Andre Johnson, but a Dwayne Bowe/Nate Burleson type (in their prime, hopefully with a good QB). I think the dude could be a pro bowler. Would like to see his combine numbers to be sure...but still. He looks legit. You worried about his pudge? LOL.
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I think he has lost a ton of steam as a prospect, and at this point his stock is extremely cold, but even then i don't think he would fall out of the first round. He is too talented, and all it takes is one team to think they can whip him into shape. An out of shape, hadn't played in a year Mike Williams still went in the top ten when he was drafted, i don't see why someone wouldn't take a flyer on him, especially a playoff team that could use an extra playmaker on offense.
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I would love for him to return and work on that body/conditioning. But, from his standpoint, he doesnt have a whole lot to gain, and it's not like we have anyone on the roster who could get him the ball anyway.
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I kind of hope he goes to the Lions. Him and Megatron with Titus in the slot and Stafford throwing to them. Could be a really fun offense. Just throw bombs all day.
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I like him, if i was a GM i wouldnt shy away from taking him at the end of the 1st.
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Interesting. I disagree with both of you. A top 10 guy, he is not. But a top 25 guy, most definitely. He dominates and I see him as not a Calvin Johnson/Andre Johnson, but a Dwayne Bowe/Nate Burleson type (in their prime, hopefully with a good QB). I think the dude could be a pro bowler. Would like to see his combine numbers to be sure...but still. He looks legit. You worried about his pudge? LOL.


A chubby WR = poor work ethic in all aspects of his game.
We aren't taking about an OT or FB carrying extra bodyfat.

A plump WR is like an offensive lineman who can't bench 270#. The guy doesn't put in the work to be successful at his position.
Alshon still has decent pro upside, but it's hard to ignore his bust potential which is why I think he slides like a Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly, although for different reasons.

There's nothing 'safe' about drafting Jeffery, which is why I don't see him going in the 1st round.
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I think Blackmon is faster than Boldin. While Blackmon isn't going to run in the 4.3s, I think he is definitely somewhere between 4.45 and 4.55. Boldin runs a 4.7. I would compare him more to Dwayne Bowe or Hakeem Nicks. They are around the same height as Blackmon. Neither is super fast, but they have enough speed to be legitimate number ones.
I'm pretty sure Boldin ran closer to 4.5. That 4.7 combine time was on a bum knee, but I could be wrong.
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Last year, South Carolina wide receiver Alshon Jeffery made a mockery of SEC defenses catching 88 passes for 1,517 yards and nine touchdowns on his way to All-America honors.

Through 10 games this season: 38 catches for 504 yards and five touchdowns. He was limited to two catches for 17 yards Saturday by Florida. It is the fourth consecutive game the 2011 Biletnikoff Award finalist has been held under 25 receiving yards.

Some are chalking up Jeffery's mediocre production as simply a by-product of the Gamecocks' season-long struggle to find consistent quarterback play.

The truth: Jeffery is overrated.

In his first two seasons, Jeffery used his size and physicality to gain position on defensive backs. With defenses sucked up to try and contain Marcus Lattimore last season, Jeffery was often able to exploit single coverage, break a tackle and gain yardage -- sometimes big yardage -- after the catch. With defenders not in position to stop him, Jeffery appeared to possess explosiveness.

This season the rare talent playing cornerback in the SEC has exposed Jeffery's lack of explosiveness. He's not getting the ball as much this season, in large part because he isn't getting open.

Jeffery reminds me a great deal of another former USC receiver -- Southern California's Mike Williams (now with the Seattle Seahawks). Like Williams, Jeffery's NFL-caliber traits are his size, strength, soft hands and hand-eye coordination. Due to each man's ability to make the catch even with defenders draped over them, many of Williams' and Jeffery's receptions are memorable plays.

The reality is both need to make plays with defenders clutching at them as neither has the agility or straight-line speed to consistently get open in the NFL.
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I'm pretty sure Boldin ran closer to 4.5. That 4.7 combine time was on a bum knee, but I could be wrong.
Actually, you are right on. Bolden was a 4.50 40 guy who ran at the combine with a noticeable limp coming off a leg injury. He only ran to show pro scouts he was healing nicely.
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Weight is certainly an issue with Alshon Jeffery, but I'm not sure why people now believe its a 'new' issue for this season. He was just as heavy last season when he was dominating. He's always had a bit of gut, it certainly can't be the reason for this downturn this season.
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Weight is certainly an issue with Alshon Jeffery, but I'm not sure why people now believe its a 'new' issue for this season. He was just as heavy last season when he was dominating. He's always had a bit of gut, it certainly can't be the reason for this downturn this season.
It's a problem because it's a recurring issue that he has refused to fix. Especially when this was most likely going to be his last year at little SC. I know i'd wanna impress the hell out of scouts and GMs where i won't have all these questions surrounding my abilities, i could just point to the game tape.
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Weight is certainly an issue with Alshon Jeffery, but I'm not sure why people now believe its a 'new' issue for this season. He was just as heavy last season when he was dominating. He's always had a bit of gut, it certainly can't be the reason for this downturn this season.
It's a shame. He did flash some speed in the bowl game though, running right by Dennard when he got a free release
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Interesting. I disagree with both of you. A top 10 guy, he is not. But a top 25 guy, most definitely. He dominates and I see him as not a Calvin Johnson/Andre Johnson, but a Dwayne Bowe/Nate Burleson type (in their prime, hopefully with a good QB). I think the dude could be a pro bowler. Would like to see his combine numbers to be sure...but still. He looks legit. You worried about his pudge? LOL.

Nate Burleson? Really. I am not seeing that comparison.

I'm predicting 2nd round for Jeffery.
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If he shows up out of shape at the combine, then definately, YES. Look at him. He's not cut like a WR should be, he's got a gut, and flabby arms. Of course you have to question his work ethic in the off-season.
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I like Alshons potential and will need to see what he looks like in workouts before I make my final analysis. Right now though, I see him with about the same value as Jon Baldwin had last year. Honestly, it might be best for him to last until the early 2nd, it might fuel him a little more.

But in 5 years from now, it honestly wouldn't surprise me to call Alshon the best WR in this class.
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At this point, I think it's actually about even odds that he falls out of the first. He's most likely the 4th WR on the board (behind Blackmon, Wright, and Floyd) and in the past 20 years we've had fewer than 4 WRs go in the first 10 times. With how deep the "good WR" pool is in this draft and how shallow the "elite WR pool" is, I would guess this is one of the years where we get fewer than four.

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...and the FA WR pool is pretty good this year as well.
Which would probably lead to less teams reaching for them in the 1st as well
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[quote=TheSlinger;2755051]http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...n-excel-in-nfl

Last year, South Carolina wide receiver Alshon Jeffery made a mockery of SEC defenses catching 88 passes for 1,517 yards and nine touchdowns on his way to All-America honors.

Through 10 games this season: 38 catches for 504 yards and five touchdowns. He was limited to two catches for 17 yards Saturday by Florida. It is the fourth consecutive game the 2011 Biletnikoff Award finalist has been held under 25 receiving yards.

Some are chalking up Jeffery's mediocre production as simply a by-product of the Gamecocks' season-long struggle to find consistent quarterback play.

The truth: Jeffery is overrated.

In his first two seasons, Jeffery used his size and physicality to gain position on defensive backs. With defenses sucked up to try and contain Marcus Lattimore last season, Jeffery was often able to exploit single coverage, break a tackle and gain yardage -- sometimes big yardage -- after the catch. With defenders not in position to stop him, Jeffery appeared to possess explosiveness.

This season the rare talent playing cornerback in the SEC has exposed Jeffery's lack of explosiveness. He's not getting the ball as much this season, in large part because he isn't getting open.

Jeffery reminds me a great deal of another former USC receiver -- Southern California's Mike Williams (now with the Seattle Seahawks). Like Williams, Jeffery's NFL-caliber traits are his size, strength, soft hands and hand-eye coordination. Due to each man's ability to make the catch even with defenders draped over them, many of Williams' and Jeffery's receptions are memorable plays.

The reality is both need to make plays with defenders clutching at them as neither has the agility or straight-line speed to consistently get open in the NFL. QUOTE]

SEC corners sucked in 2010. Were great in 2011. That's some interesting hypothesis. Or, may I say BS. Said analyst points out that Jeffrey helped by Lattimore in 2010 and true talent showed in 2011 when Marcus was hurt. Conveniently not mentioning his pothead qb. The most important position in a passing attack. Gets suspended and thrown off the team in 2011. I think Jeffrey can play. Time will tell. I call total BS on this guy's analysis.
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It's a shame. He did flash some speed in the bowl game though, running right by Dennard when he got a free release

That's the thing, he struggled a lot more then I thought he would when he was pressed at the LOS for a guy his size. He seems like he should be stronger, and one of the strengths of his game should be beating press coverage.
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I know at least a few GMs/coaches will not even consider drafting him (in any round) unless his coaching staff explains why he's fat with a reasonable answer (other than "he just doesn't care"), because one of the biggest things in the NFL is work ethic.

I wouldn't be shocked, if what is speculated is as bad as it really is, if we see him in round 3 or 4.

He didn't quit on his team, so he won't be a Mike Williams (syracuse/TB) bad, but I think we'll know what NFL teams really heard behind closed doors by how far he falls.

He's a first round talent with things that need to be coached up, but his body looks bad (like he puts the "F" in fat, bad).
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The question we should be asking is can he get back into rd 1. Cause I don't see him in there now.

but the way the rd is structured, teams at the end need WR: HOU, BAL, SF and NE (who picks 2x)

if he can cobble together a decent time, he can sneak in the tail end of 1. but that's unlikely to happen. He looks like a small TE not a big WR.
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this is another scenario and it's very possible . remember Tori Gurley last year, some people thought he'd be a mid round pick, didn't get drafted at all.
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Can he? Absolutely. Will he? I don't think so. There's too much raw talent there, and it's not like he had a complete lack of production in college and you'd be drafting him on potential alone. He has produced, but let's not forget what he was dealing with this season at SC. No running game after Lattimore went down, and the QB play was atrocious all year. He's probably not the Top 15 guy many thought he was after last season, but I have a hard time picturing him out of the first.
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