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Old 02-22-2012, 05:34 PM    (permalink
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can't franchise, not enough space. But can resign once we know exactly how much cap space we have to work with. Till we work it out we are going to RFA him.
well good luck to the steelers! its kinda **** seeing a player you drafted a couple years ago be lost so soon.
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Chances Wallace lands in NE or BAL?
The Patriots have the money for 1 year, but after next year, they'll have key guys to resign (including Welker [franchise tag], Gronkowski, Vollmer, Spikes, Hernandez, etc)

If they did offer him a contract, it would be something stupid like 1 year 16 million.

edit: And we all know that isn't happening.
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As I've said before, I'd gladly let Welker walk if it meant bringing in Wallace long term. Welker's production is far more easily replaced.
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Precisely. I like the looks of this...

Mike Wallace
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Streeter, McNutt, Jones. Lots of options there if we go that route.

Bet VD would love to have Wallace on the outside.
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As I've said before, I'd gladly let Welker walk if it meant bringing in Wallace long term. Welker's production is far more easily replaced.
I'd definitely tag Welker this year. Next year, you have a heck of a decision to be made on whether Welker is allowed to walk or not.

I tend to agree with you, but it's harder than it seems for NE to find WRs in the draft or on the street.
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As I've said before, I'd gladly let Welker walk if it meant bringing in Wallace long term. Welker's production is far more easily replaced.
I agree, and if Welker is a ***** in negotiations with them I would not be surprised at all to see a tag&trade.
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I agree, and if Welker is a ***** in negotiations with them I would not be surprised at all to see a tag&trade.
I would be ok with this if meant Wallace.

Also, lol at Steelers fans thinking everything will be just sunshine and rainbows while being so ****** with cap.
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GM Kevin Colbert recently conceded to a local radio station that the franchise tag is highly unlikely due to salary cap issues. The Steelers will reportedly place a first-round restricted tender on Wallace and "see what develops." If he "signs a contract and they deem it too high," they will apparently take the first-round compensation instead of matching. Once unthinkable, it's now very possible the Steelers will let their 25-year-old No. 1 receiver walk instead of digging themselves into an even deeper salary-cap hole.
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Yeah 100% sure Wallace is not a Steeler next season.
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He could always decline, or they could always workout an actual contract with him.
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He could always decline, or they could always workout an actual contract with him.
Cmon man... He isn't going to decline big money.
Pittsburgh is incapable of giving him a suitable contract.
He's gone. Accept it.
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My gut is still telling me he stays despite how boring and lame that would be.
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My gut is still telling me he stays despite how boring and lame that would be.
I can't see it. A lot of teams with needs at WR I am sure would give up a first, depending on how FA goes. I'd love him in NE but I think alot of other teams would take him too, making it competitive.
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My gut is still telling me he stays despite how boring and lame that would be.
You gut is also full of beer so we have to take whatever it says with a grain of salt.
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I can't see it. A lot of teams with needs at WR I am sure would give up a first, depending on how FA goes. I'd love him in NE but I think alot of other teams would take him too, making it competitive.
Teams are stingy when spending draft picks on veteran players. I can't explain it.

Plus we rarely, rarely, rarely ever see RFAs sign with new teams. The fear of the Poison Pill was part if it the last couple years, as was the 1st and 3rd tender.

Those are gone, but it would still surprise me to see an RFA actually sign with a new team. I think part of it will still be the fact that the other team can wait until the last possible second to match while other possible FA targets get signed tying your hands.

I think the Steelers will put a first round tender on him and there will be some rumors about teams thinking about signing him...and then no one actually will.
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Cmon man... He isn't going to decline big money.
Pittsburgh is incapable of giving him a suitable contract.
He's gone. Accept it.
Not to mention on the last page people already posted that he will leave if he gets offered more money else where, but lets overlook that along with the cap space issue. He may stay but to talk like bhaarat is, is pretty ridiculous.
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Finley resigned for 2 years. Sorta surprised he would take only 2-year deal.

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Finley resigned for 2 years. Sorta surprised he would take only 2-year deal.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...year-contract/


Hope that's incentive-laden.

2 years is curious.
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The average value of the deal — $7.5 million — roughly splits the difference between the tight end franchise tender of $5.4 million and the receiver franchise tender of $9.4 million. And it gives Finley another crack at the open market in 2014, when the new TV money will have kicked in and driven up the salary cap.

Given the value of the deal, the question of whether Finley is a tight end or a receiver be as significant the next time Finley is due to hit the market. Based on the 2013 cap number in Finley’s deal, a 120-percent increase would put the tender for Finley over $10 million.
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2 Years $15M. Wow that is rather cheap.
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forgot about the new TV contract coming up. I guess 2 years is a decent calculated risk for Finley.
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Open up franchise tag for Flynn tag 'n trade next, Teddy. KThnxbai ;)
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Open up franchise tag for Flynn tag 'n trade next, Teddy. KThnxbai ;)
I'd LOVE to see you stuck paying franchise QB money to a backup QB.
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I'd LOVE to see you stuck paying franchise QB money to a backup QB.
I'd LOVE to see a 26 year old QB packed for a nice little trade. That's probably a long shot though, QBs aren't exactly in high demand. ;)
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