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Old 02-27-2012, 06:54 PM    (permalink
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Teams do take guys like this off their boards. Some organizations feel they don't need distractions or invest a whole ******** of time on one player who may or may not get his head out of his ass. Constantly putting himself ahead of team is reason enough for others.

I wanted to see him keep developing and become something special. My hopes were for him to become a young Junior Seau type that could freelance with a guy like Gary Plummer beside him covering up his mistakes when he guessed wrong. Oh well, he can always sling crack.
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Let him drop. He can come play behind Fairley and Suh.
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Bombing interviews and under-performing in these tests (I don't even think he benched) just screams lack of preparation to me. He doesn't play slow on the field and failing these interviews is tough because most agents and these combine prep schools know what questions the teams are going to ask.

I bet if he actually took this thing seriously and trained for the 40, interviews etc. he wouldn't have performed nearly as bad.
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Let him drop. He can come play behind Fairley and Suh.
That sounds like a management nightmare, but... I can't think of any running back who wouldn't be a little nervous running up the middle with those three coming.
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He has a chance to redeem himself on his pro day, but I don't know if he can undo the damage he did to himself the last few days. He may have dropped himself to later day three draft status, when most people had him on day one before the Super Bowl.
He will get drafted. Just how low can he go?
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Burfict was never the player that his hype indicated. In fact, most of the hype surrounding Burfict came from his fanboys... that's it. Just like it did for Rey Maualuga.

All that nonsense about being a "feared" defender... "he's the guy that can make a defense feared", etc.

LOL.. since when was Arizona St.'s defense feared?


There are no feared defenses outside of the SEC. You want to see what a feared defense looks like? Look at the one Dont'a Hightower led.

Arizona St.'s defense is soft as drug store cotton... just like the overrated Vontaze Burfict. All you have to do is tell him that to his face and you'll get a free 15 yards on top of it.
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Sophomore year = average with some splash plays
--- Summer: The coaches probably said "Please stop doing dumbass things that get us big time penalties." ----
Junior Year = benched.
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LOL.. since when was Arizona St.'s defense feared?

There are no feared defenses outside of the SEC. You want to see what a feared defense looks like? Look at the one Dont'a Hightower led.

Arizona St.'s defense is soft as drug store cotton... just like the overrated Vontaze Burfict. All you have to do is tell him that to his face and you'll get a free 15 yards on top of it.
Come on...you can't blame one player for the play of a whole defensive unit. I'm not even trying to defend Burfict but you can't judge prospects like that.
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I've had him in the 3rd-4th round area for a few months now. Loved that half the board thought he was a top 20 pick not but 3 weeks ago.

Undrafted? no I doubt he does undrafted.
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He could fill a Brandon Spikes type role in the NFL if somehow he smartens up a bit, but that is the million dollar question. I don't think he will last past the third but crazier things have happened.

My prediction is the Ravens take him in the third. Who better for a headcase MLB with talent to develop under than the greatest MLB of all time who also has had some issues, murder case fwiw.
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Burfict seems to be a big hitter, and not a whole lot else. The positive thing for him is we all love big hits...


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if I were a special teams coach, I'd be so pumped to have him
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Let me get this straight: Burfict is a late first round prospect before the combine. He runs a slow 40 at the combine and was brutally honest in an interview and now he's undraftable. He had the same character/leadership/personal foul problems before the combine, but now they're even worse. Now everyone is piling on top of him to the point where you see this "there are rumors he bombed all his interviews" and "he has zero talent" and "find me a guy off the streets". This is getting ridiculous.
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I think it's been quite awhile since anyone saw him sniffing the first round and most had him third at best for some time and that was mostly people that believed Reverand Ray could save him.
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4-6th round sounds right. He can join the other developmental backups.
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Let me get this straight: Burfict is a late first round prospect before the combine. He runs a slow 40 at the combine and was brutally honest in an interview and now he's undraftable. He had the same character/leadership/personal foul problems before the combine, but now they're even worse. Now everyone is piling on top of him to the point where you see this "there are rumors he bombed all his interviews" and "he has zero talent" and "find me a guy off the streets". This is getting ridiculous.
No, people thought he was a first rounder because of the hype. Then they saw him play.
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I haven't seen him mocked in the 1st in quite a while. The Combine is more just further confirmation that he is not who he was previously hyped up to be.
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He brought so much attention on himself at ASU that he almost convinced people that he was this great LB who just so happened to be a headcase. They got the second part right.
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No, people thought he was a first rounder because of the hype. Then they saw him play.
There's a reason people are posting their prospect opinions here rather than turning in their reports to the scouting department of an NFL team...as much as we hate to admit it.
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You're not the only one sir. People see a 40 time and freak out. It's actually kind of funny.
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Let me get this straight: Burfict is a late first round prospect before the combine.
First round picks aren't benched in college.
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My prediction is the Ravens take him in the third. Who better for a headcase MLB with talent to develop under than the greatest MLB of all time who also has had some issues, murder case fwiw.
That's... hilarious, because I can totally see that happening. Ray Lewis would not let him commit those penalties, and Ozzie Newsome is the master of scooping up talent when it falls. I can see it.
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I kinda want Bill Belicheck draft him. I want to see the media reaction since most of the time they say something like "Bill Belicheck draft smart guys that are football players".


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You can see in his media interview that he would love getting picked by Baltimore. If I draft this guy I would hire a psychiatrist and get him professional help. Guys like Suh/Harrison let there emotions get the best of them but it seems like Burfict will need professional help reading reports about him.
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