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Old 02-27-2012, 09:46 PM    (permalink
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Offensive coordinator Jay Gruden made it clear Monday that he envisions running back as the Bengals' top offseason priority.
The Bengals want Bernard Scott more involved, but not to the extent that he's a feature back. "With the running back situation the way it is we need to address it if there's a top of a line guy there," Gruden said, referring to the draft. "I think there are a number of them that can come in here and help out a lot." Gruden also said "this is a good year to need a back," and he'd be "surprised if the Bengals don't draft a good one." They'd love for Trent Richardson to slide to No. 17.
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How don't they consider Lamar Miller with one of their firsts (assuming the Jets don't take him before them)?

Is it true that the coaching staff prefers bigger backs? I feel like fans are just making that up. Miller has everything you look for in a 3-down back...
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They would take him.
Especially if we keep transitioning towards a WCO.

I think the bigger back theory comes from Rudi and Ced. But people are quick to forget Chris Perry and Kenny Irons. Both showed incredible promise before injuries hit.
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They would take him.
Especially if we keep transitioning towards a WCO.

I think the bigger back theory comes from Rudi and Ced. But people are quick to forget Chris Perry and Kenny Irons. Both showed incredible promise before injuries hit.
...and Bernard Scott. I know they didn't draft him high, but it's not like they are completely allergic to handing the ball to smallish backs.

They'll also still have God as a big body to give the ball to in short yardage and goalline.
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Gah, if the Bengals actually make a smart draft decision and take Lamar Miller, I'm going to be pissed. I really, really don't want to play him twice a year.
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Gah, if the Bengals actually make a smart draft decision and take Lamar Miller, I'm going to be pissed. I really, really don't want to play him twice a year.
I know right?
Im hoping for an Ingram/Miller first round since DeCastro and Richardson both will be long gone.
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Trade down into the early 2nd and grab David Wilson, Lamar Miller, Doug Martin, or Robert Turbin. I think all of them will be great backs at the next level.

It blows me away that players like Ryan Williams and Mikel LeShoure were taken high in round 2 last year. If they were in this class I don't think either would even be one of the Top 10 RBs taken.
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Trade down into the early 2nd and grab David Wilson, Lamar Miller, Doug Martin, or Robert Turbin. I think all of them will be great backs at the next level.

It blows me away that players like Ryan Williams and Mikel LeShoure were taken high in round 2 last year. If they were in this class I don't think either would even be one of the Top 10 RBs taken.
This running back is loaded. Which is ironic, because nobody really needs one.
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Trade down into the early 2nd and grab David Wilson, Lamar Miller, Doug Martin, or Robert Turbin. I think all of them will be great backs at the next level.

It blows me away that players like Ryan Williams and Mikel LeShoure were taken high in round 2 last year. If they were in this class I don't think either would even be one of the Top 10 RBs taken.
Ryan Williams was the seventeenth rated player on Arizona's board last year. As a VT fan, I say with confidence that he sh*ts on David Wilson as a college player and even more so as an NFL prospect.
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Ryan Williams was the seventeenth rated player on Arizona's board last year. As a VT fan, I say with confidence that he sh*ts on David Wilson as a college player and even more so as an NFL prospect.
I'll take your word for it, he just never flashed any special qualities to me.
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They would take him.
I think the bigger back theory comes from Rudi and Ced. But people are quick to forget Chris Perry and Kenny Irons. Both showed incredible promise before injuries hit.
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I forgot about Chris Perry, he was a talented dude. Sucks when people get screwed by injuries.
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I think people forget how good of a freshman year Ryan Williams had. One of my favorite RB prospects. Just a weird Soph. year and an unfortunate injury. Ryan Williams>>> David Wilson as a prospect for me.

If they are transitioning to a WCO, they should get Doug Martin. Perfect fit IMO.
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Ryan Williams was the seventeenth rated player on Arizona's board last year. As a VT fan, I say with confidence that he sh*ts on David Wilson as a college player and even more so as an NFL prospect.

He doesn't poop on David Wilson, but I agree the only thing Wilson had over Ryan Williams is pure speed. Ryan Williams has better vision and IMO is a more physical runner.
David Wilson is still a damn good RB and will flash greatness at times. But I'd rather have a healthy Ryan WIlliams which is still an iffy proposition.
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Im too lazy to look them up, but I remember his numbers when healthy were absurd.
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Unless they get Richardson whoever the Bengals get will be spilting carries with Scott or someone else.
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Looking at the board, there's no reason to take Lamar Miller at 17 (or 22). He might be there a round later. Just not alot of demand for 1st rd RB. and the depth of the class hurts a player like Miller. You could get Bernard Pierce in rd 3 or 4 and he might actually be better.

on the other hand there is a reason to take Janoris Jenkins at those spots. He's got elite CB talent and there are tons of teams that need CB. the demand for CB at the late rd1 early rd 2 area will be huge. by mid round 3 all the good CB will be gone.
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Looking at the board, there's no reason to take Lamar Miller at 17 (or 22). He might be there a round later. Just not alot of demand for 1st rd RB. and the depth of the class hurts a player like Miller. You could get Bernard Pierce in rd 3 or 4 and he might actually be better.

on the other hand there is a reason to take Janoris Jenkins at those spots. He's got elite CB talent and there are tons of teams that need CB. the demand for CB at the late rd1 early rd 2 area will be huge. by mid round 3 all the good CB will be gone.
Completely disagree because I think Miller has terrific upside and could be a difference-making, explosive 3-down back in this league if he stays healthy.
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Depending on what Bengal fan you listen to they are high on guys like Trent Richardson, David DeCastro and Luke Kuechly. They may well be all gone but if one slips to them they are going to look pretty good with that pick.
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I think this is where the desire for a bigger back stems from. An all-around stud would be great, but pairing someone with Scott works fine, too. It seems every year the word out of Cincy is the coaching staff wants to get Scott more involved.
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Rumors floating around if Richardson drops out of the top 10 the Bengals will be trying to trade up with Kansas City, Seattle, or Arizona to get Richardson.
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Rumors floating around if Richardson drops out of the top 10 the Bengals will be trying to trade up with Kansas City, Seattle, or Arizona to get Richardson.
On a sidenote i don't see any of those 3 teams wanting Richardson. Maybe at that point the value is too great.
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Rumors floating around if Richardson drops out of the top 10 the Bengals will be trying to trade up with Kansas City, Seattle, or Arizona to get Richardson.
As they should.

I just think STL, CLE, or TB will draft him in the top 6. He's that good of a prospect.
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