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Old 03-09-2012, 10:51 PM    (permalink
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Then-Saints defensive coordinator came up with the plan as a tax dodge when his old system of fining players for leaving opponents unhurt generated too much income

The 31 NFL defensive coordinators who are not Gregg Williams heard the words "NFL bounty scandal" and began sweating
Unfortunately, no Saints player was able to collect the $500,000 bounty offered to anyone who destroyed that stupid pirate ship in Tampa Bay's stadium
Some players felt the bounties were cruel and wrongheaded, as the bonus for player death was only $500

When the bounty program was suspended out of fear of discovery during the 2010 playoffs, Saints defensive players went on a tackling strike against Marshawn Lynch and the Seahawks in the Wild Card round
One of the few positive aspects of the bounty system was that Saints players volunteered to brutally injure middle school bullies free of charge as part of the NFL's United Way initiative

Pool to injure Brett Favre was actually funded by fans across the country, every other team in the league, and the NFL itself
http://www.theonion.com/articles/det...scandal,27589/
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:08 AM    (permalink
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It was a legal hit though because Thomas wasn't a defenseless player.
The whole team is defenseless. That's why we needed to give incentive to play defense.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:32 AM    (permalink
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The whole team is defenseless. That's why we needed to give incentive to play defense.
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I really don't like the idea of bounties to injure other players. It leaves a bad taste, but isn't the end of the world for me. The outside money and possible gambling issues that can result are more concerning.

What coaches and players really should wonder is what the real effects of bounties actually are.

If guys are being rewarded for knockout shots and turnovers and see these as priorities being emphasized by coaches, I can really see guys taking their eyes off what really wins games. Playing your position instead of free-lancing, wrapping up and tackling a guy on the spot instead of going for the knockout that so often results in extra yardage and even touchdowns, penalties that result in first downs. Good things happen on the field as a result of sound fundamentals and playing in scheme where everybody is in position to support each other.

I understand the camaraderie that comes about, but that's what battling through training camp and then dealing with a common enemy brings naturally without the risk of what the bounties can bring.
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If guys are being rewarded for knockout shots and turnovers and see these as priorities being emphasized by coaches, I can really see guys taking their eyes off what really wins games.
Well, this just my opinion, but when I was a player and as a coach, I held this belief.
If I send you back to the bench for a few plays, the person who comes in to replace you is not as good as you are. That serves as a benefit to my team.

Have I ever told a kid to hurt someone on purpose? No, but you better believe I tell them to drive their tackles all the way into the ground. You better believe I teach kids that if they are the second person on a tackle for them to put their helmet (facemask) on the ball.
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to me "bountygate" should be treated worse than "spygate"
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You know what's sad? Even the empire was torn on whether or not to use bounty hunters. "We don't need their scum."

So does this mean the Saints leadership is worse than the empire?
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Well, this just my opinion, but when I was a player and as a coach, I held this belief.
If I send you back to the bench for a few plays, the person who comes in to replace you is not as good as you are. That serves as a benefit to my team.

Have I ever told a kid to hurt someone on purpose? No, but you better believe I tell them to drive their tackles all the way into the ground. You better believe I teach kids that if they are the second person on a tackle for them to put their helmet (facemask) on the ball.
The difference that I have observed that pisses me off is when the blitzers or DL guys are going at a QB and they see he's thrown the ball, that they then still take the liberty to drill the guy (who is pretty defenseless at that moment) into the ground.
They're not trying for a sack.
They're trying only to hurt the QB.

The hit shown on Manning by the Redskins was an example of this.
So was the hit on Favre (Vikings-Saints NFCCG) the play after a personal foul call, and they got away with this one because the ref was a chickenschit *****. Of course the league fined the player fot the hit.
The hit on Romo 2 years ago by Boley of the Giants was after he threw it already, and Boley knew it. He still intentially pile-drove him into the turf.

I don't mind QBs getting crushed when they have the ball, in the pocket or scrambling. That's part of the game.

But I see too often, defensive guys intentionally trying to injure the QB after he's let the ball go.

Of course I like when my Packers guys do it to QBs like Brees, Cutler, Stafford, Eli, etc. But I'd rather the league stops it because star QBs going out with broken collar bones or shoulders, neck injuries, is not good for the game.

The collegiate hit by BYU on Bradford was another example that I clearly remember. Only intent was to do what he did, injure the player. That helped them win the game.
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