New York Giants Discussion

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I can't say I'm surprised. I think we're going to see a very different roster in the next couple of years. It's around that time. This is the problem with drafting the way we do, it's impossible to keep everyone when you land 4 guys each draft, bc you can't pay all of them. It's obviously a good problem to have, but that's just life in the FA era.

I'm gonna miss them. I liked all of them. Especially Chase. I think not re-signing Chase is a huge mistake.

I think the problem specifically is developing players. Now we need to play people faster. Scott, Brown, Brewer, and any of the rookie Lbs drafted last season. Come on down! Your turn to step the F up! WRs? Barden get your butt in there now or get the F off the team! JJ your turn, Dillard, Willard, Tracy, and all those guys. Let's go! Patience is wearing thin. Your up! Anyone else? Petrus! Get your butt in the starting line up! Win your training camp position battle!

Prince! You better be ready to start. We can't wait, so Webster and you better hold it down. Sash! Let's go and step up!

Now is the opportunity or better yet moment where these guys need to step up! Next man up!

[bigbluedefense]

That's the thing though. You can't rush guys either. You just have to let the chips fall where they may. Just keep drafting well and keep plugging guys in where you can. Don't give out bad contracts, draft well. That's all you can do.

[bigbluedefense]

Bring back Boss for cheap. Sounds like a plan.

[bigbluedefense]

I wonder if we should go after Levi Brown. Might be worth it. Only for a reasonable contract though. Same with Boss.

[Giantsfan1080]

Boss would come very cheap I'd imagine. We'd still need to bring in another vet TE besides him though because of his concussion issues.

[OSUGiants17]

I don't wanna lose Tolly or Chase, especially Chase. I would much, much, much prefer to keep Chase over Goff.

[LTgiants]

That's right this FA period we should just bring in all former Giants lol.

[scottyboy]

so read on BBI that Tolbert said he'd love to be a giant (and bashed the Jets).

He would be so good of a fit, it makes me head explode

[OSUGiants17]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

so read on BBI that Tolbert said he'd love to be a giant (and bashed the Jets).

He would be so good of a fit, it makes me head explode

If he really wants to come here I will gladly welcome him. His power with Bradshaw and Scott could give us Earth Wind & Fire again! Also, him wanting to play here may mean we could save a little money and pay him a little less.

[LTgiants]

Maybe we can use the new 1.6 million we got from the Cowboys/Redskins overpaying to get Tolbert.

[bigbluedefense]

Pass on Tolbert. We need to go young. Let's stay with the youth movement, we need fresh blood at RB. Young and cheap.

The FAs I would love are Boss on a cheap/reasonable contract, Shincao on a 1 year deal, Eric Winston if we can get him for a reasonable price, and that's pretty much it.

If we can get Boss and Winston, that's 2 huge needs we fill before the draft which allows us to go BPA all the way through the whole draft. It would be huge.

Not having a contract in place with Terrel Thomas yet is getting me nervous. What's going on? I hope this doesn't become another Steve Smith situation.

Also, while I really wanted Moss, him signing with the 49ers is great news for us. That's 1 less team who would look at WR in the 1st round. Maybe that gives us a better chance of Stephen Hill. Or Kendall Wright, which either one is fine with me.

[bigbluedefense]

Lofton too, but he's going to get more money than he's probably worth.

[scottyboy]

idk BBD, I don't want to waste an early pick on RB and if we could get him cheap, him and Bradshaw is a damn good duo.

[bigbluedefense]

I wouldn't mind a 3rd round pick on a RB. We need fresh blood at RB. Bradshaw is not the same RB from 07. His feet are constantly broken, he dances way too much now behind the line. He used to be a 1 cut and go guy. Now he's a dancer. He's not the same player and to be honest I think he's one of our more overrated players. He's a tough SOB, but his vision has gone to ****.

And behind him we have a raw 7th round RB as the backup. That's not good enough going into this season. We need another guy in there, a quality guy, who can step up and give us some quality snaps.

I'm eyeing Robert Turbin as our Jacobs replacement. He's perfect for us.

[Giantsfan1080]

I think Thomas is going to walk. I feel another team is going to offer more than we are going to.

[bigbluedefense]

It feels like the Steve Smith situation all over again.

That begs the question, do you re-sign Ross now if Thomas walks? I think if the price is right, we should bring Ross back. Ross is a solid #2 outside CB. He can't play the slot to save his life, but as an outside guy defending the opposition's #2, I think he's solid.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

It feels like the Steve Smith situation all over again.

That begs the question, do you re-sign Ross now if Thomas walks? I think if the price is right, we should bring Ross back. Ross is a solid #2 outside CB. He can't play the slot to save his life, but as an outside guy defending the opposition's #2, I think he's solid.

I think it's pretty imperative that we sign one of them back. I don't care who at this point because I think Prince will step up fine into the #2 role next year.

[scottyboy]

think it means someone like Gilmore from South Carolina could be a chance for us at 32. I like that kid and think he could be a good corner for us

[bigbluedefense]

Drafting Prince wound up being such a huge pick for us. It's amazing how sometimes it all falls into place. He went from a complete luxury pick to a necessity.

I have a feeling we lose both of them. It's a Jerry Reese move. Lowball both of em, lose em in FA, and just draft a replacement/pull a replacement out of your ass.

Reese is good enough to make it work though. But I'd still prefer to sign one of them back.

[Giantsfan1080]

I'd feel a lot more comfortable at least getting one of them back but at this point you have to give Reese the benefit of the doubt. If they don't want to come back at our price then next guy steps in.

[LTgiants]

I think you can at least replace Aaron Ross. I know he played well last season but I think Bruce Johnson is able to replace him if he is healthy and given the chance.

TT on the other hand even will be the one harder to replace.

[Giantsfan1080]

Who knows what Thomas can bring to the table though after the 2 ACL tears.

[bigbluedefense]

The more I look at it, the more I realize this team is going to look very different in 2 years. I think our core unit is going to get blown up very soon.

Thomas and Ross and possibly Osi will be gone this year on defense. We'll lose Mario, McKenzie, and Jacobs on offense. Next year we'll probably lose Kenny, maybe Canty, and who knows what else.

We just have to hope we keep drafting well. Bc if we don't, we're screwed.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

The more I look at it, the more I realize this team is going to look very different in 2 years. I think our core unit is going to get blown up very soon.

Thomas and Ross and possibly Osi will be gone this year on defense. We'll lose Mario, McKenzie, and Jacobs on offense. Next year we'll probably lose Kenny, maybe Canty, and who knows what else.

We just have to hope we keep drafting well. Bc if we don't, we're screwed.

Yeah that's why I posted the other day that it's possible in 2 years we only have 6 or 7 players remaining from this SB victory. The turnover is going to be way more than between 42 and 46.

[LTgiants]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Who knows what Thomas can bring to the table though after the 2 ACL tears.

You don't know. However I am assuming the Giants feel at least somewhat comfortable with his progress otherwise I don't think they would be negotiating with him.