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Old 03-12-2012, 04:03 PM    (permalink
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Default 2012 NFL DRAFT: Where Does My Guy Stack Up Now?

What round do you think our guy(s) may go in now? (Round/Team)


Travis Benjamin WR/PR, Miami (FL)



Lamar Miller RB, Miami (FL)

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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
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South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
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Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
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Lamar Miller will be a First Rounder still in my eyes.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
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Total Swagger: 62
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I believe Benjamin is this years, Torrey Smith out of The University of Maryland. With the route running ability being very raw, on both counterparts, that is the best I could do for Benjamin in terms of NFL comparison.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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Lamar will be a 2nd, Benjamin 3-4
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Lamar will be a 2nd, Benjamin 3-4
Team preference?
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
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Lamar to the Bucs make sense because they need speed to compliment Blount

Idk about Benjamin. Everytime needs as many deep threats as possible.
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The only knock I have on Benjamin, is his lack of hand-eye concentration. Travis wants to get it and go, which is understandable, but you must have the ball first in order to do so. He caused Jacory Harris a lot of grief, two years ago for his lack of Receiving abilities. Jacory could have been a First Rounder in his Sr. season of projection.
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Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
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Lamar to the Bucs make sense because they need speed to compliment Blount

Idk about Benjamin. Everytime needs as many deep threats as possible.
If the Rams don't draft Richardson in the 1st there is a decent chance they take Miller at the top of the 2nd.
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Miller fits well with a team like Tampa, St. Louis, or perhaps Cleveland at the top of round 2. Benjamin's best situation would be to go to a team with experience at WR where he could learn from some veterans for a year or two. He clearly has physical tools, but the technique and mental aspects need to be developed.
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Miller fits well with a team like Tampa, St. Louis, or perhaps Cleveland at the top of round 2. Benjamin's best situation would be to go to a team with experience at WR where he could learn from some veterans for a year or two. He clearly has physical tools, but the technique and mental aspects need to be developed.
I know this may sound a bit by far over-biased, but I need Benjamin on the fly in Philly, because DJack will not be back. "Hit The Road Jack!"
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
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I value Lamar Miller as a top 25 prospect, I'm still unsure if he goes in the 1st though. Depends on how Cincinnati feels about the RB class and how they address their needs. His best fit though could be in St. Louis at the top of the 2nd, they need a shifty back to go with Steven Jackson and they have the picks to go BPA.
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Benjamin is a 6th-7th rounder at best in my eyes, only a return man.
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I agree as a return man, but he brings as much as Torrey Smith and Titus Young as s slot man.
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I agree as a return man, but he brings as much as Torrey Smith and Titus Young as s slot man.
He can't catch the ball and can barely run a route. The combine proved to me he is NOT a WR, seeing him compared to other prospects is a huge difference.
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I'll go with the second round for Lamar Miller since I think the Bengals will sign Michael Bush or maybe Peyton Hillis, and then the sixth round or so for Benjamin.
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He can't catch the ball and can barely run a route. The combine proved to me he is NOT a WR, seeing him compared to other prospects is a huge difference.
I'd agree with this. He ran his 9s perfect, but his other routes were rounded.
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I am in agreement with Shane across the board on Benjamin. I have him as a PFA type as a return-man only with developmental WR skills. As for Lamar Miller, I had him in the second round to Denver in my last mock so I'll go with that.
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He can't catch the ball and can barely run a route. The combine proved to me he is NOT a WR, seeing him compared to other prospects is a huge difference.
Doesn't a quick hitch or slant account for anything, as a slot man?
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Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
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I'd agree with this. He ran his 9s perfect, but his other routes were rounded.
That is all we used DJack for with McNabb, so what is the problem with bringing him in, for Vick for the same purpose?
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
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South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:31 AM    (permalink
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lol look at Benjamin in the Gauntlet, the dude can't catch
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Doesn't a quick hitch or slant account for anything, as a slot man?
He won't catch them.
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