NBA Discussion Thread - Page 2558

MetSox17 · 03-15-2012, 11:08 PM

Lol it's no big deal to me, he isn't on my team and wasn't going to my team, but it's gonna be hilarious when three months from now he wants out again and he realizes he screwed himself out of the opportunity to be a free agent.

comahan · 03-15-2012, 11:11 PM

I love Dwight, awesome player, fun to watch, etc

But the dude is a total flake

zachsaints52 · 03-15-2012, 11:38 PM

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Pardon me while I rosterbate a little:

Wall - Gordon - Singleton - Anthony Davis - Nene

with Mack - Crawford - Vesely - Booker - Seraphin off the bench

You got your distributor, shooter/scorer, perimeter defender, and a nice defensive savant to play in the paint with Nene, with a solid bench. Definitely a playoff team in the east.

/back to real life

With the guys you have I hope they run a up tempo team. It would be sick to watch.

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Which would explain how stupidly they are run. Besides, they couldn't have just traded him for a pick unless the other team was under the cap for all of his salary, which i doubt anyone is.

They're better off keeping him and let him expire. If they moved him and Ariza, they'd have a hard time reaching the cap floor.

And yes, saints, Gordon is a RFA, but he's declined an extension from NO. They can either move him for ten cents on the dollar or just have him for another year before he signs with Indiana in FA.

Indiana was before the Barbosa trade. But from what was said the Hornets wanted a first this year for Kaman, which no one wanted to do because the class is so deep.

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Lol it's no big deal to me, he isn't on my team and wasn't going to my team, but it's gonna be hilarious when three months from now he wants out again and he realizes he screwed himself out of the opportunity to be a free agent.

Is there any Magic players expiring at the end of this year? I think Jameers is next year as well.

gpngc · 03-15-2012, 11:43 PM

Dwight is a flake for staying with his team but LeBron is a coward for going to Miami?

Dwight's showing loyalty after carefully thinking about the situation and still pouring his heart out on the court every single night. The media made the big deal about it. Sure, he considered leaving, but ultimately he made the very admirable decision to stay with the team that drafted him for at least two more years, even when that organization whiffed year after year to get guys around him.

MetSox17 · 03-15-2012, 11:48 PM

He stayed with the team because he was guilted into staying. He saw what happened to Lebron and he didn't want that for him, even with the huge success the Heat have had so far. He's a flake for caving into public opinion instead of doing what he really wanted all along, and that's to go elsewhere.

scottyboy · 03-15-2012, 11:52 PM

dwight flip flopped so much I thought he was a politician. It's funny though. He brought it upon himself, so I don't care for this pity party he wants thrown for him. Demanding trade? Saying you're gonna leave? and then signing on for one more year? What about an extension if you're that committed Dwighty boy? It was a dumb decision as that team's got nothing around him, and that's not a biased Nets fan, that's him being stuck with a the 2nd fiddles being Turkey glue, J-Rich, Jameer and Ryan Anderson, a free agent to be.

MetSox17 · 03-15-2012, 11:57 PM

And this is to counter-attack the people that are claiming he wanted to go from a 28-16 (or whatever their record is) team to a losing record team.

The ONLY reason they have a decent record is because of Dwight, and that's it. Take him away from the equation and you have the same level of talent the Cavs had when Lebron left. Whatever team gets him automatically becomes a winner (for the exception of Charlotte and the Wizards).

I'm not gonna have any compassion when he's crying to be traded again and he has zero leverage.

ccB · 03-16-2012, 12:07 AM

Even the Wiz would be a winner with Dwight....Wall and Nene are better than any players the Magic have.

gpngc · 03-16-2012, 12:09 AM

I hope you guys didn't criticize LeBron when he chose Miami.

zachsaints52 · 03-16-2012, 12:10 AM

I actually was going to like the Heat because they drafted Jarvis Varnado (I wish he would play in the NBA) but once the LeBron and Bosh thing came I decided it wouldve been like a bandwagon. Then lo and behold Varnado went overseas.

D-Unit · 03-16-2012, 12:20 AM

Think Dwight doesn't know that he's surrounded by a poor cast? Of course he knows that. The fact that he still chose to stay is even more admirable. The dude marches to his own beat. He doesn't even have a tattoo...that's the kind of character he is. He's not a follower. Criticizing him for being loyal and sticking with the challenge rather than trying to join a place that already is set up with stars is looked down upon?

Oh my, the hating is atrocious.

MetSox17 · 03-16-2012, 12:21 AM

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I hope you guys didn't criticize LeBron when he chose Miami.

Apples and oranges. People criticized him for the way he went about it (The Decision), not that he left to a contending team. I've always sided with players that want to be traded out of perennial losers.

yo123 · 03-16-2012, 12:21 AM

Yeah, you can't have it both ways and rip Lebron for joining up with Wade and also rip Dwight for trying to win on his own. Dwight deserves some blame for taking so long to make up his damn mind and putting his teammates through all of this though.

MetSox17 · 03-16-2012, 12:22 AM

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The dude marches to his own beat. He doesn't even have a tattoo.

This is just great.

yo123 · 03-16-2012, 12:23 AM

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Apples and oranges. People criticized him for the way he went about it (The Decision), not that he left to a contending team. I've always sided with players that want to be traded out of perennial losers.

Maybe you criticized him only for that reason, but there were plenty of people who also criticized him for joining a team with 2 all stars on it already and taking the easy way out.

fenikz · 03-16-2012, 12:23 AM

Suns beat the Clippers without Nash or Hill

a game below .500 and 2 1/2 back of the 7 seed :/

MetSox17 · 03-16-2012, 12:25 AM

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Maybe you criticized him only for that reason, but there were plenty of people who also criticized him for joining a team with 2 all stars on it already and taking the easy way out.

I was speaking for myself only, probably should have worded that better, but it was mostly cleveland fans that were pissed that he left and took the easy way out. He got a media **** storm for the horrible way The Decision was handled, as he should have.

scottyboy · 03-16-2012, 12:26 AM

Kudos to being loyal... Just don't call for a trade for the whole year and flip flop like he did. He wants pity for his whole situation while he brought it upon himself.

ccB · 03-16-2012, 12:36 AM

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Suns beat the Clippers without Nash or Hill

a game below .500 and 2 1/2 back of the 7 seed :/

You guys can thank Brian Cook for that win because if he was suited up they clearly would of blew you guys out.

gpngc · 03-16-2012, 01:06 AM

I don't care about your thoughts on the 'way he went about it' which is laughable to hate on because it's considered the worst thing he's ever done and it was a ******* CHARITY EVENT.

But if you didn't criticize LeBron for leaving Cleveland then fine. You think players should go wherever they have the best chance to win/you think they should do whatever THEY want because it's THEIR right. I also agree with this but I understand the perspective that he was disloyal for leaving.

In that respect, I admire what Dwight did here.

TheBoyWonder22 · 03-16-2012, 01:10 AM

So is it a requirement for Bucks players to have not gone to college? They have to lead the league in that aspect.

D-Unit · 03-16-2012, 01:12 AM

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This is just great.

Preach it baby.

gpngc · 03-16-2012, 01:12 AM

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Kudos to being loyal... Just don't call for a trade for the whole year and flip flop like he did. He wants pity for his whole situation while he brought it upon himself.

If you were receiving pressure from all sides, plus the media bringing it up EVERY DAY, and it was the biggest decision of your life, AND you have to make it DURING THE SEASON with no definitive timetable, wouldn't you weigh your options?

The media took you on the ride, not Dwight Howard.

He never publicly said "I'm leaving Orlando. It's been fun but I'm gone." It was all sources and ********. He was still deciding.

When making a HUGE life decision do you just make it right away and never weigh the options, especially with all the complexities involved, people, players, family, etc. ALL WHILE putting up 20-20 every night? No, you waver and search yourself and the situation until you make a choice. The difference here is that Dwight is under the microscope and the media is hounding him and those close to him for scoops EVERY ******* DAY. That's what took you for a ride. We don't see the decision-making process for anything like this.

MetSox17 · 03-16-2012, 01:16 AM

Where there's smoke, there's fire. It's ridiculous to think that everything that had come out from respected sources was bogus. I'm sure that at some point in all of this he had fully decided he wanted to leave, and was talked off the ledge.

SickwithIt1010 · 03-16-2012, 01:19 AM

The guy changed his mind like 3 times just yesterday, thats why people are giving him ****. Just needed to make up his mind and stick to it.