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Old 03-18-2012, 12:47 AM    (permalink) 
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Might be a problem when your backup is worlds better than your starting QB.
Might be a problem when you don't know what you're talking about.
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Might be a problem when you don't know what you're talking about.
Not for Brodie.
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Might be a problem when you don't know what you're talking about.
Oh yes, Carson Palmer is definitely a franchise QB.

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Oh yes, Carson Palmer is definitely a franchise QB.
Oh, we're talking about Alex Smith as a franchise QB? I forgot that happened. Please carry on with the "Alex Smith is worlds better than Palmer" discussion. My mistake.
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Oh, we're talking about Alex Smith as a franchise QB? I forgot that happened. Please carry on with the "Alex Smith is worlds better than Palmer" discussion. My mistake.
I exaggerated that, but I still fully believe that Alex Smith is better than Carson Palmer as of this moment.
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I exaggerated that, but I still fully believe that Alex Smith is better than Carson Palmer as of this moment.
Is that why Smith was among the worst in sack % last year?

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Palmer 62.3 (11th)
Smith 46.4 (22nd)

If you take into consideration Palmer's 6 quarters coming in ice cold off the couch, the season looks even better. If I'm choosing between Alex Smith and Carson Palmer, I take Palmer 100% of the time. You'd better have a damn good team if you expect to win with Smith. Palmer can actually add value to your team.
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Palmer really did play well after the first 2 games, and I really don't see how a whole off season to get ready won't improve his play. At times this Raiders team quit on the field, but I never saw Palmer show any sign of quit. The defense was non existent most of the time, and our offense was still able to keep us in the game because of Palmer.



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Is that why Smith was among the worst in sack % last year?

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If you take into consideration Palmer's 6 quarters coming in ice cold off the couch, the season looks even better. If I'm choosing between Alex Smith and Carson Palmer, I take Palmer 100% of the time. You'd better have a damn good team if you expect to win with Smith. Palmer can actually add value to your team.
I think Palmer was a turnover machine last season though unless I'm mistaken. I know it was his first year with the team though so maybe that had something to do with it. On the other hand, I mean you need to protect the ball. Alex obviously wasn't a megastar last year, but at least he didn't screw things up time and time again and give the other team more opportunities. If Palmer cut down on the mistakes I think he'd be the clear favorite. We went 13-3 with Alex, I don't see us necessarily doing better or worse with Carson. It's really a shame that Carson's career has gown south. He was one of my favorite quarterbacks in the NFL and definitely the last time I was so sure a college player would be make a good quarterback in the NFL.
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Man, you'd off yourself over a QB who was on a 13-3 team that lost in overtime in the NFC Championship game?

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Hasn't seen too much PT here but when he has he's done rather well. I'd like to see what happens with him in a starting role as I think he could be a serviceable at either right or left tackle. Seems to be more of a finesse guy than anything else so LT might be his best fit. Kinda reminds me of Levi Jones in a way without as much polish in his pass pro. He's definitely got some potential though.
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Touché... .
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Alex Smith is visiting Miami today.
Awesome. Just awesome.
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Poor Matt Flynn. I think there's a good chance he ends up back in GB.
Left Miami without a contract? That's odd.
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