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No, they clearly wouldn't have.

Here, I'll break it down.

Point #1- The best that Flynn could do on the open market was 10 million guaranteed. That was without having to offer any picks.

Point #2- The franchise tag for quarterbacks this year was 14.5 million, which is fully guaranteed.

Point #3- Nobody is going to give up a pick AND more guaranteed money to get the exact same player that could only get 10 million guaranteed.

Point #4- Flynn would be highly unlikely to accept a trade somewhere else for 50% less money, which is even assuming such an offer even existed. Why would he? He could pocket an extra 5 million dollars and hit the open market the next year.


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Tannehill at 8 still makes me lol.

QB value inflation at its finest.
He's got plenty chances to never make all of the steps he needs to, but he's got a lot of things going for him and doesn't have a blatant flaw that'll hold him back the way Gabbert did. At the low cost that top 10 picks have now a days teams are going to gamble on QBs that have potential exactly how NBA teams use top ten picks on completely skill-less 7 footers every year looking for that franchise Center.

In that environment Tannehill's a pretty good gamble for a raw guy, kinda like a not very poor man's Jay Cutler, he had a lot to overcome, but has a lot of tools to work with and kept his team competitive even if the results weren't as great as you'd like. I really think that just like Locker last year, if he lands someplace where they can be patient with him and give him good guidance, he is a very exciting young QB.
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Tannehill at 8 still makes me lol.

QB value inflation at its finest.
Tannehill is not even close to a 1st round QB. It's a complete joke how far these teams are willing to reach.
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Big pickup: Bengals reached agreement with safety Reggie Nelson. Jets now will need to look elsewhere.

Thanks for wasting the Jets time and using the Jets for leverage Reggie.
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Big pickup: Bengals reached agreement with safety Reggie Nelson. Jets now will need to look elsewhere.

Thanks for wasting the Jets time and using the Jets for leverage Reggie.
He must be the first free agent to ever do this.
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Big pickup: Bengals reached agreement with safety Reggie Nelson. Jets now will need to look elsewhere.

Thanks for wasting the Jets time and using the Jets for leverage Reggie.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
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Flynn to Seattle now I have to pull for a Pete Carrol team. Crap.
Welcome aboard. Good move by the Seachickens with very little downside. As was mentioned he's an upgrade over what they have even if he isnt all world.
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He must be the first free agent to ever do this.
If he came out and announced he was gonna be loyal with CIN(which is cool) a few days ago than other teams can move on. He made it out like a circus the past 24 hours, pretty lame. He is a decent safety, not some all pro stud.
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Both Brandon Lloyd and Reggie Nelson were smart. They both realized their success is hitched to their respective coordinator - Lloyd w/ McDaniels and Nelson with Zimmer. They both owe their career resurgences to those guys.
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OMG Mike Brown actually keep are most important FA!
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If he came out and announced he was gonna be loyal with CIN(which is cool) a few days ago than other teams can move on. He made it out like a circus the past 24 hours, pretty lame. He is a decent safety, not some all pro stud.
Who the **** cares? Jesus, he's a free agent safety and wanted the most money possible. He's the umpteenth guy in all sports to do this.
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Who the **** cares? Jesus, he's a free agent safety and wanted the most money possible. He's the umpteenth guy in all sports to do this.
Then you can expect a fanbase to be upset if he didn't choose them after showing so much interest in doing so.

No one says this has never happened before but likewise a fanbase can dislike the player for these tactics too.
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I'd kind of understand if this was Peyton Manning we're talking about, but it's Reggie Nelson. He isn't even that good.
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The Bengals have made some nice moves, keeping Nelson and bringing in Travelle Wharton to play guard. Corner is still an issue, but there are plenty of guys they can draft.
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Then you can expect a fanbase to be upset if he didn't choose them after showing so much interest in doing so.

No one says this has never happened before but likewise a fanbase can dislike the player for these tactics too.
That's like hating other team's GMs for smokescreening before the draft.
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The Bengals have made some nice moves, keeping Nelson and bringing in Travelle Wharton to play guard. Corner is still an issue, but there are plenty of guys they can draft.
The Bengals are in a nice position to really build a nice team through the draft. They could potentially get a player like DeCastro at 17 and pick up a CB at 21. Pick up an RB in the second.

Both Cinci and Cleveland are building through a young core of players. The Steelers and Ravens both have put a lot of stock into veterans. In the next couple years I think both the Steelers/Ravens will be at the bottom looking up.
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I'd be surprised if DeCastro was around at 17.. his stock is at an all time high, but I get your point.
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Then you can expect a fanbase to be upset if he didn't choose them after showing so much interest in doing so.

No one says this has never happened before but likewise a fanbase can dislike the player for these tactics too.
Point being, he's not even that good. He works well with Zimmer because Zimmer knows how to use him, and I doubt he'd be nearly as effective in New York.

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Meh, they have enough cap that they should be making more noise. Like doing a mega up front deal to Mike Wallace and ******* over the Steelers, but Mike Brown is a cheap bastard and will never do such a thing.
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Yea I actually think the Steelers are going to be in a bust team this next season. That o-line has yet to be addressed - they can talk up their guys as much as they want, Big Ben is the whole reason that team can really do anything by evading defenders and having them fall off him as he is able to make throws downfield. I don't really see anything good with Haley coming in as O-Coordinator. That defense is old too, they have two 30+ year old safeties and old CBs.
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It will be interesting to see what Mike Brown (and Clark Hunt) do with the new CBA when they are forced to spend money.
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The steelers need to petition the league to let them play with just 4 OL and send everyone else out to catch passes. Big Ben doesn't need blocking anyway.
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It will be interesting to see what Mike Brown (and Clark Hunt) do with the new CBA when they are forced to spend money.
Well, we all saw what Ralph Wilson, the Buffalo Bill's owner, did, 50 million guaranteed to one player, who will probably sit on his ass and collect paychecks.
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Just to add to the Bengal talk up there ^, I think they go Cordy Glenn with their first pick. That would be a lot of weight on the right side if he lined up next to Andre Smith.
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I'd be surprised if DeCastro was around at 17.. his stock is at an all time high, but I get your point.
I'm thinking he wont get by Seattle now that they have their QB.
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