Peyton Manning=Overrated - Page 2

TACKLE · 03-19-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Steady Lurkin

If you need 6 passing TDs against a bad secondary in October, PEYTON MANNING IS YOUR GUY.

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NFLBaller · 03-19-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steady Lurkin

If you need 6 passing TDs against a bad secondary in October, PEYTON MANNING IS YOUR GUY.

Bingo

Bulldogs · 03-19-2012, 02:29 PM

OP is clearly a troll who joined solely to get under your skin.

Hurricanes25 · 03-19-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steady Lurkin

If you need 6 passing TDs against a bad secondary in October, PEYTON MANNING IS YOUR GUY.

Sign me up. Most good QB's won't throw 6 TD passes against a bad secondary in October.

jrdrylie · 03-19-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBaller

Bottom line what has Manning done to deserve all the accolades and a 90 million dollar contract at 36?

The better question is what has Michael Vick done to deserve 2 $100 million contracts? Let's debate that.

StickSkills · 03-19-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steady Lurkin

If you need 6 passing TDs against a bad secondary in October, PEYTON MANNING IS YOUR GUY.

Not Matt Flynn?

NFLBaller · 03-19-2012, 02:35 PM

Manning should have won 3-4 Super Bowls 1 is an underwhelming number for a guy marketed like he is.

Bulldogs · 03-19-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBaller

Manning should have won 3-4 Super Bowls 1 is an underwhelming number for a guy marketed like he is.

Breed? Have you returned to me my darling?

Thunder&Lightning · 03-19-2012, 02:44 PM

Your acting like winning a super bowl is easy. And all those cliche arguments you just made are pretty much the only arguments there are. If not winning a 2nd super bowl is a knock... than shame on you

and

Just shut up.

FUNBUNCHER · 03-19-2012, 02:46 PM

Peyton plays tight in big games, still. Doesn't mean he isn't a great QB, because he is. Or was. We'll know in September.

Personally I think he should have won more rings, but it's kind of silly to argue against his excellence. You have to make it to the postseason to come up short, and from September to December, it's hard to argue there's ever been a better QB to play in the NFL.

Your entire argument for Peyton Manning being overrated IMO can't be his lack of SB rings. IMO that would be like saying Brady is overrated because he never led the Pats on a game winning TD drive in the SB.

NFLBaller · 03-19-2012, 02:50 PM

How can people claim Manning is the best ever when Joe Montana won 4 Super Bowls and never threw an INT in any of them?

Thunder&Lightning · 03-19-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBaller

How can people claim Manning is the best ever when Joe Montana won 4 Super Bowls and never threw an INT in any of them?

I dont think anyone here thinks he is the best ever... The best quarterback to ever hit the free agent market? Yes.

CDCB14 · 03-19-2012, 03:01 PM

I really think people should sit back and think about it before just making jokes because everyone assumes Peyton Manning is a God.

There are some valid points against Manning's "undeniable greatness." He has the most one and done's of all time for a QB (tied with Warren Moon) which people tend to over look. I don't care if the Colts defenses have sucked over the years, he also had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark, and Edgerrin James all in their primes and an OL that never got him touched and only won one ring in like 10 playoff appearances. Something is wrong there. Not to mention his general manager got the rules changed to HELP HIM WIN.

Also, ESPN's love fest over him probably has some fans tired of Manning, not just through this free agency but throughout his entire career. I don't give a **** if the dude wants to look cool on TV and talk for 5 minutes before every snap... the play either works or it doesn't. Every QB makes audibles. The media giving him a blow job over being such a "student of the game" and all that is garbage and old news. Cool story bro they all change the play or call a hot route.

He's an obvious first ballot HOFer and will always be remembered, but for a guy who went 1/10 in the playoffs he does get a bit too much love. I compare him to Romo a lot. Romo is an amazing regular season and stats QB who gets creamed for not winning in the playoffs, what's the difference with Manning? Why is he such a God and Romo is a *** who everyone hates? I know it's because he plays for the Cowboys, but this is Romo's 5th year starting, Manning didn't win until his 8th season.

1 for 10.... dude deserves a bit more criticism.

NFLBaller · 03-19-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CDCB14

I really think people should sit back and think about it before just making jokes because everyone assumes Peyton Manning is a God.

There are some valid points against Manning's "undeniable greatness." He has the most one and done's of all time for a QB (tied with Warren Moon) which people tend to over look. I don't care if the Colts defenses have sucked over the years, he also had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark, and Edgerrin James all in their primes and an OL that never got him touched and only won one ring in like 10 playoff appearances. Something is wrong there. Not to mention his general manager got the rules changed to HELP HIM WIN.

Also, ESPN's love fest over him probably has some fans tired of Manning, not just through this free agency but throughout his entire career. I don't give a **** if the dude wants to look cool on TV and talk for 5 minutes before every snap... the play either works or it doesn't. Every QB makes audibles. The media giving him a blow job over being such a "student of the game" and all that is garbage and old news. Cool story bro they all change the play or call a hot route.

He's an obvious first ballot HOFer and will always be remembered, but for a guy who went 1/10 in the playoffs he does get a bit too much love. I compare him to Romo a lot. Romo is an amazing regular season and stats QB who gets creamed for not winning in the playoffs, what's the difference with Manning? Why is he such a God and Romo is a *** who everyone hates? I know it's because he plays for the Cowboys, but this is Romo's 5th year starting, Manning didn't win until his 8th season.

1 for 10.... dude deserves a bit more criticism.

Someone finally with a Brain.

fear the elf · 03-19-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CDCB14

I really think people should sit back and think about it before just making jokes because everyone assumes Peyton Manning is a God.

There are some valid points against Manning's "undeniable greatness." He has the most one and done's of all time for a QB (tied with Warren Moon) which people tend to over look. I don't care if the Colts defenses have sucked over the years, he also had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark, and Edgerrin James all in their primes and an OL that never got him touched and only won one ring in like 10 playoff appearances. Something is wrong there. Not to mention his general manager got the rules changed to HELP HIM WIN.

Also, ESPN's love fest over him probably has some fans tired of Manning, not just through this free agency but throughout his entire career. I don't give a **** if the dude wants to look cool on TV and talk for 5 minutes before every snap... the play either works or it doesn't. Every QB makes audibles. The media giving him a blow job over being such a "student of the game" and all that is garbage and old news. Cool story bro they all change the play or call a hot route.

He's an obvious first ballot HOFer and will always be remembered, but for a guy who went 1/10 in the playoffs he does get a bit too much love. I compare him to Romo a lot. Romo is an amazing regular season and stats QB who gets creamed for not winning in the playoffs, what's the difference with Manning? Why is he such a God and Romo is a *** who everyone hates? I know it's because he plays for the Cowboys, but this is Romo's 5th year starting, Manning didn't win until his 8th season.

1 for 10.... dude deserves a bit more criticism.

You're focusing too much on the 1 and not enough on the 10...

Steady Lurkin · 03-19-2012, 03:18 PM

Peyton Manning=Kevin Garnett

Brothgar · 03-19-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBaller

Bottom line what has Manning done to deserve all the accolades and a 90 million dollar contract at 36?

Yeah those 4 MVP awards (most ever) are just jokes.

NFLBaller · 03-19-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by broth223

Yeah those 4 MVP awards (most ever) are just jokes.

Shouldnt have won 3 of those

nepg · 03-19-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosfan

I'm not predicting anything, it's just the way you sound when you talk about the subject.

How does one decipher inflection of another through text? Genius broncosfan.

LonghornsLegend · 03-19-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TACKLE

How does he compare to Tom Brady? Who is better between the two?

This was pure gold right here....

Seamus2602 · 03-19-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBaller

Stupid reply Brady has 3 rings to Mannings 1....next

So in trying to decide who is the better player you ignore the rating that is based on individual performance (however flawed) and instead focus on the the stat that is based entirely on the performance of the team as a whole?

And you are actually calling other people stupid?

descendency · 03-19-2012, 03:26 PM

Manning is due for another "down" year (given his high standards, that's not unimaginable).

1) He hasn't played football in a year
2) He just had major surgery and hasn't totally recovered yet (and may never)
3) He's going to be playing the bulk of his games outdoors (his career numbers are marginally better in a dome, like 99% of QBs)
4) He's 36.
5) He'll see a lot of 34 teams and the Chargers , whom have routinely been his nemesis over the last few years, twice a year.
6) The offensive talent in Indianapolis was better than the talent in Denver (assuming it doesn't get a lot better in the remainder of the off season).

And he'll still be a top 10 QB in the NFL. Probably top 5.

Call that overrated or whatever.

njx9 · 03-19-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae

Why are Chiefs fans bitter? I'm not upset he isn't in KC, I just find it hilarious that you Broncos homers are already predicting SB appearances. How about you build the rest of your team first there champ.

whoa, whoa. where have any broncos homers predicted the super bowl? i'd like to smack them.

falloutboy14 · 03-19-2012, 03:32 PM

The O-line n Denver is significantly better though, as well as a defense as a whole. He won't be called upon to pull a win out of is back-side on a weekly basis. He might have a down year but the Broncos will be less reliant on him too.

Caulibflower · 03-19-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurricanes25

Sign me up. Most good QB's won't throw 6 TD passes against a bad secondary in October.

MATT FLYNN DID IT IN DECEMBER WOOOOOOO SEATTLE GOT THE BEST QUARTERBACK.

/goes back to real threads.