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Old 03-20-2012, 06:16 PM    (permalink
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LOL Texans board is pissed.
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meh, Demeco is a little overrated. Brian Cushing was the real force.
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Its a decent deal really. He tore his achilles last year and was not even close to the same guy before. Its a good flyer for the Eagles and a decent way for the Texans to clear salary.
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He wasn't a great fit for the 3-4, but man, only for a mid rounder. Did he have an injury history?
He missed 10 games, didn't play real well in the new scheme last year. Still a good LBer though

I think they'll miss his leadership
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If he doesn't sign with SF where Alex Smith go? the browns don't want him.
He could always pull a Carson Palmer and retire.
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He could always pull a Carson Palmer and retire.
I actually thought this was a strong possibility.
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Ryans was always better in the 4-3. He didn't fit in Phillips' system as much. He is a perfect guy for the Eagles. One of the best MIKES in the game so they can slide Brian Rolle outside to WILL and use Chaney at SAM to cover tight ends. The Eagles can focus on bringing in DT and OL help with their top picks now - something they badly needed to do anyways.
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Texans might come out on top. Hopefully it's at least a 4th round pick.
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Apparently it's a 4th and a 6th for the Texans. Ehh...
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The Eagles have two 4ths I believe
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Ryans didn't play in Houston's nickel package and was due a good amount of money so I can see it on their end. For the Eagles, this is a HUGE signing. Ryans was a dynamite MLB before he injured his Achilles but should be 100% for this year.

Also, I'm thinking the Eagles go DT with their first pick. Either Still, Brockers, or Poe, whichever falls.

Or they could go OT
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Good move by Philly. The get a solid MLB for a reasonable trade. Houston actually got decent return for a guy who doesn't fit their defense anymore. 6M a year is too much for a guy who doesn't fit.

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I wonder if it means Luke Kuchely drops all the way to 32 or even further? The LB FA class is still very strong and draft class is even stronger. Pete Carroll just said on Pat Kirwan's show that they are about 12 LBs with really high grades in the 1st 2-3 rounds.
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Good move by Philly. The get a solid MLB for a reasonable trade. Houston actually got decent return for a guy who doesn't fit their defense anymore. 6M a year is too much for a guy who doesn't fit.

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Major point is that Ryan has no guaranteed money next year. Very good shot he restructures or is released if he doesn't work out. Deal works well for both teams.
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Alex Smith is apparent near a new deal with the 49ers that pays him about $8 mil a season. Good to see the getting it worked out. Probably the same 3/$24 deal but sorting out the guaranteed money.

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Sounds like he'll fit right perfectly in the Packers defense. ;)

What happened in 2009 when he got 6.5 of em? Anything different?
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49ers OLB Manny Lawson will be hitting some form of free agency this eventual offseason, with a chance that it might be unrestricted free agency. The 49ers tendered Lawson back in March, which means if he ends up being a restricted free agent, the 49ers either can get him back at a reasonable one year deal, or potentially let him walk with a draft pick coming back to them.

When it comes to Lawson, I find myself bouncing back and forth one what the 49ers should do and will do. If he hits unrestricted free agency, I think I'd be fairly surprised to see him back in San Francisco in 2011. While he hasn't had monster sack totals, he does enough things that I think a team out there will overpay for him. He can pressure the quarterback, he can make open field tackles, and he can drop back in coverage with a lot of success.

I was poking around Pro Football Focus' counting stats (as opposed to the statistical formulas they've developed) and if there numbers are accurate, Lawson quietly put together some impressive numbers as a pass rusher. According to their stats, Lawson finished with 8 QB hits and 23 QB pressures. His eight hits ranks ninth among 3-4 OLBs and his 23 pressures rank 13th. Of course, he also finished with a mere 2.5 sacks so that should certainly be taking into consideration.

I bring all this up because of some analysis provided by PFF. They put together a look at pass rushing edge rushers in 2010 and also from 2008 to 2010. Manny Lawson is eighth on the list behind John Abraham and ahead of Cameron Wake. Parys Haralson is 19th on the list behind Clay Mathews and ahead of Matt Roth.

In case you overlooked that, yes Clay Mathews was ranked 18th on PFF's list of the most productive edge rushers. He of 17 sacks, 12 hits and 45 pressures showed up 10 spots below Manny Lawson primarily due to the fact that he was utilized over 2 1/2 times as frequently in pass rush situations. Matthews does show up 12th over the last three years, while Lawson does not appear on that list.

As with a lot of these types of stats, it does need to be taken with some grain of salt. I believe Lawson brings some serious talent to the table, particularly when it comes to dropping back in coverage. The problem for him has been a certain level of consistency. If he could be a bit more consistent, I'd have to imagine the 49ers would have involved him in the pass rush more frequently than 217 times.

Of course, how much of the blame falls on Greg Manusky? If the team elected to bring back Manny Lawson, could Vic Fangio's blitzing schemes improve Lawson's numbers? Or is he doomed to be an underachiever when it comes to notching the big sack totals? 2009 was his best year with the 49ers as he notched 6.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and 51 tackles. Where on the spectrum does the talent of Manny Lawson fall? What would allow him to find greater success in the NFL?
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good trade for the Texans but whats with the Eagles trading for players that don't fit their scheme at all
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The Alex deal is win-win. Great for Alex, great for the 49ers, great for 49er fans and fans of rival teams.
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Alex Smith is apparent near a new deal with the 49ers that pays him about $8 mil a season. Good to see the getting it worked out. Probably the same 3/$24 deal but sorting out the guaranteed money.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...ct-sources-say
Yay! We Superbowl nao.

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good trade for the Texans but whats with the Eagles trading for players that don't fit their scheme at all
He can tackle right? He fits the scheme a helluva lot more than anyone else we have, JUST for that reason.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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