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PackerLegend · 03-20-2012, 06:24 PM

Packers in discussions with free agent Manny Lawson per PFT. Could it be...

jackalope · 03-20-2012, 06:29 PM

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Packers in discussions with free agent Manny Lawson per PFT. Could it be...

Well, I'm certainly glad we didn't get Wimbley considering he got a 5 year $35 million deal, but if Lawson comes at a reasonable price I'd be for the move. As I talked about with Wimbley, I think a short term solution at OLB would give us flexibility to address our other problems in the draft.

CheeseKnuckles · 03-20-2012, 06:37 PM

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Well, I'm certainly glad we didn't get Wimbley considering he got a 5 year $35 million deal, but if Lawson comes at a reasonable price I'd be for the move. As I talked about with Wimbley, I think a short term solution at OLB would give us flexibility to address our other problems in the draft.

It would also make it possible to draft a OLB that they see high potential in, but may be very raw.

jackalope · 03-20-2012, 06:42 PM

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It would also make it possible to draft a OLB that they see high potential in, but may be very raw.

Right. Also gives the team a chance to find out if they have anything in So'oto and Lattimore.

PackerLegend · 03-20-2012, 06:56 PM

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But... but...

Rodgers + Jennings + Nelson + Wallace + Finley = Best offense to ever play in NFL

Well that would be an amazing lineup there are 3 reasons we could never do it.. 1 we desperately need our 1st round pick for a DE, OLB, or a C. 2 money, we will have so much money locked up in our receiving core it would be crippling. 3 which is not a huge problem but somebody would whine from not getting the ball and just become trouble.

Pack_Attack_4 · 03-20-2012, 07:34 PM

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Packers in discussions with free agent Manny Lawson per PFT. Could it be...

I hope we sighn him hes a freak. Hes good against the run he accells is pass coverage. hopefully he can take sum of the attention off of Clay.

Pack_Attack_4 · 03-20-2012, 07:36 PM

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Well that would be an amazing lineup there are 3 reasons we could never do it.. 1 we desperately need our 1st round pick for a DE, OLB, or a C. 2 money, we will have so much money locked up in our receiving core it would be crippling. 3 which is not a huge problem but somebody would whine from not getting the ball and just become trouble.

ya man we have too many holes on Def. To give up a 1st round pic to get a guy when were allready stacked at that position doesnt make alot of sence to me.

CheeseKnuckles · 03-20-2012, 08:38 PM

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I hope we sighn him hes a freak. Hes good against the run he accells is pass coverage. hopefully he can take sum of the attention off of Clay.

If we sign Lawson we could take a flier on Bruce Irvin in the 2nd or possibly 3rd now that he was arrested. I would be happy with that.

RockJock07 · 03-20-2012, 09:08 PM

Bringing in Wallace would be an awful idea, It's such a terrible idea I don't even know how to respond to it.

Lawson on the other hand is a great idea, a mid-level FA that can come in a be a starter right away.

MM likes Tebow but I don't see this happening.

princefielder28 · 03-20-2012, 09:26 PM

I wouldn't be against signing Manny Lawson but we need to bring in pass rushers, which he does not fall under

Burger · 03-20-2012, 11:26 PM

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I wouldn't be against signing Manny Lawson but we need to bring in pass rushers, which he does not fall under

Actually, he is a pass-rusher. He was the defensive end opposite of Mario Williams in college. The 49ers just screwed him over.

princefielder28 · 03-21-2012, 08:02 AM

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Actually, he is a pass-rusher. He was the defensive end opposite of Mario Williams in college. The 49ers just screwed him over.

I am well aware of who Manny Lawson is. 16 career sacks in 6 seasons does not equate to someone who is an effective pass rusher.

TimmG6376 · 03-21-2012, 08:57 AM

Not going to quote everyone, but I agree with a lot that's been said. Lawson isn't the pass rusher we all want, but he is a good all around LB with experience in the 3-4. Would be a nice stopgap that they could trust on early downs. I would hope they'd still draft a OLB that could be used as a pass rush specialist until developing the other necessary skills.

He did get I think 9 of his 16 career sacks while playing in the 3-4, and as someone mentioned he may benefit from playing across from someone like Clay who draws so much attention. In his time with the 49ers his partner in crime at ROLB was Parys Haralson. A guy I see 49ers fans on this board respect as a run/coverage guy but is not really a pass rush threat.

I also see that the Browns are interested in Lawson now

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bigboiajhawk · 03-21-2012, 10:13 PM

Okay, so does selecting Jordy Nelson give TT a pass on Brohm and Lee? Lee was just signed by the Raiders, thus officially ending his career as a Packer.

jackalope · 03-21-2012, 10:44 PM

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Okay, so does selecting Jordy Nelson give TT a pass on Brohm and Lee? Lee was just signed by the Raiders, thus officially ending his career as a Packer.

People need to get past the thinking that every pick is expected to be great. GMs are aware that the draft is a crapshoot and anticipate that a fair number of players aren't going to pan out. If you're able to hit at a good percentage in the early rounds and add a few impact players in every draft class (which Thompson does), that's really good enough. 2008 wasn't TTs best class, but it still netted Jordy, Finley, Sitton, and Flynn. Yes, Brohm and Lee turned out to be bad picks, but thanks to consistently good drafting the team was able to overcome that. I mean, Thompson got the team to a Super Bowl. Of course he get a pass on going 1/3 in the second round that year.

For the record, I absolutely hated the Brohm pick at the time and was in love with the Pat Lee pick.

SuperPacker · 03-22-2012, 11:47 AM

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People need to get past the thinking that every pick is expected to be great. GMs are aware that the draft is a crapshoot and anticipate that a fair number of players aren't going to pan out. If you're able to hit at a good percentage in the early rounds and add a few impact players in every draft class (which Thompson does), that's really good enough. 2008 wasn't TTs best class, but it still netted Jordy, Finley, Sitton, and Flynn. Yes, Brohm and Lee turned out to be bad picks, but thanks to consistently good drafting the team was able to overcome that. I mean, Thompson got the team to a Super Bowl. Of course he get a pass on going 1/3 in the second round that year.

For the record, I absolutely hated the Brohm pick at the time and was in love with the Pat Lee pick.

What he said!

princefielder28 · 03-23-2012, 11:35 AM

Jeff Saturday has signed with the Packers

I understand the need to sign him, but in comparison to letting Wells walk, this is a baffling move by the team. Saturday will be 37 when the season starts and is probably only a one year solution and might not even be a lateral move from Wells being on the team.

bigboiajhawk · 03-23-2012, 12:23 PM

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Jeff Saturday has signed with the Packers

I understand the need to sign him, but in comparison to letting Wells walk, this is a baffling move by the team. Saturday will be 37 when the season starts and is probably only a one year solution and might not even be a lateral move from Wells being on the team.

Lets wait til the contract details come out. He is most likely not getting paid anything like Wells, so that is a plus. In addition, when you have TJ Lang and Josh Sitton next to you, you don't have to be the greatest center in the world. Also, the Packers can draft a guy this year at Center, and let him develop for a full year.

BloodBrother · 03-23-2012, 12:55 PM

Yeah, I like the move. He was just as good last season as Wells was, but will be much cheaper. This gives the Packers a nice stop gap option until they find his replacement. They can now focus on nabbing some D guys early in the draft, and take a center later on.

BloodBrother · 03-23-2012, 12:58 PM

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I am well aware of who Manny Lawson is. 16 career sacks in 6 seasons does not equate to someone who is an effective pass rusher.

That is why they draft a guy who can rush the passer and spell him with Lawson. WAlden was atrocious vs the run last year and I couldn't STAND seeing him lose contain on the edge all the time. Lawson would be a huge upgrade over him in this area alone

Sign Lawson, then draft a OLB who can rush the passer. Would be a good combination on the edge there. Next up would be to bolster DE, especially with Mike Neal's sorry ass suspended for 4 games

jackalope · 03-23-2012, 01:00 PM

I don't know what level of play Saturday has at 37, but this was probably a smart move by the team. Without signing Saturday, the team would have either been forced to find their starting center in this year's draft (which would be a risky move), or start ED-S. I still don't think this rules out Konz in the first round (this would be a smart pick in my mind), but the team can now go defense early on and try to find a guy in the mid-rounds who doesn't have to start for a year or two.

BloodBrother · 03-23-2012, 01:15 PM

Yeah, this doesn't mean that if Konz is there that they won't take him, since as we know, they'll take BPA on their board regardless of position.

Smokey · 03-23-2012, 01:28 PM

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Aaron Smith is 35 years old. In Thompsons' world he might as well be dead as a FA.

Heh - see the venerable Jeff Saturday.

PackerLegend · 03-23-2012, 01:35 PM

Must have been fairly cheap. Can't see them spending a lot on him. In that case it would be a good move then. Not desperately need a C. Could still see Konz drafted

SuperPacker · 03-23-2012, 04:27 PM

Drafting a Centre in the 3rd round would make sense because Saturday isnt a long term option. OLB in the 1st, DE in the 2nd and C in the 3rd would be ideal.