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Old 06-09-2006, 03:47 PM    (permalink
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I got money on Cotto and Tarver.
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Hopkins is almost a 3-1 underdog. Anyone think he has a legit chance in this fight?

Read my post, he definitely does. He is, next to Delahoya, the smartest boxer in the sport. He knows how to win.
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Where is primetime, he usually owns these boxing threads?
Oh I'm here baby.

Thought I should start this sucker off by saying Rob, I'm sad to inform you that I called the cable company today and the Cotto fight is a whopping 39.99 PLUS local charges to order. If he was fighting a puncher or someone with a bigger name my dad and I would probably order it, but 45-50 dollars simply isn't worth it. Cotto will probably knock him out in the later rounds (as you predicted) or win by a decision.
This guy he's fighting might be slick but Cotto is young and tough so slick boxing won't deter his mighty march foward if this guy can't hurt him.



As for the Tarver vs Hopkins fight, I am excited to follow it online with espn.com round by round, but it is simply not worth 50 dollars to see a Hopkins fight. His fights with Taylor were 2 of his more exciting fights over the past decade.. they were good fights but not great.

As I stated earlier, I believe Hopkins will outsmart Tarver who will be too anxious to make a statement and knock Hopkins out. Hopkins will circle, grab, and punch when the ref. isn't looking and make this fight very sloppy in route to a decision victory.

Don't forget, Hopkins started his career at Light Heavy... and was 0-1.






Did any of you see that KO by Demetrius Hopkins last night? Wow. I was watching it live and almost turned it off because Demetrius is SUCH a boring fighter but I tell you what, I'm glad I kept it on. He knocked that dude the *********** OUT! I was legitamitely afraid when I saw that guy drop. Thankfully, he was only unconcious for like 5 seconds and than doctors rushed in to help him.
It will probably win KO of the year and it was SportCenter's top play.

Demetrius has really grown into a solid puncher and is no longer a straight up pitter patter boxer anymore. He's KO'd 5 of his last 6, and he should be 6 for 6 but the fight he had before lastnight he couldn't put the guy away.

Demetrius has all the makings of a champion but he is
1. Boring
2. Lacks a killer instinct
3. Unsure of himself

I truely believe after consitently following his career on ESPN2 that he is a solid puncher and has great speed and talent at 140... he just doesn't have that "it".
Good to see ya in the thread. Yeah, I saw D-Hop's KO. He is a pretty good prospect and that was a damn good KO. I've seen a few of his fights and I am not really a huge fan. I dont have much patience for very boring fighters unless they are displaying outstanding boxing skill against great competition (like Winky vs Trinidad). D-Hop will probably win a belt eventually (although he is not close to Bernard) and will ahve a very solid pro career.

Anyway I am extremely nervous right now for the cotto fight. I have great confidence in him, but Malignaggi looks to be in great shape and Cotto is having a lot of trouble making weight. He will make it, I think, but he looked drained at the press conference. I am a little worried that he might tire if the fight goes to the later rounds. And, if you wanna see the cotto fight (which has a great UC), just get 4 friends together, then it is 10 bucks each. Thats what I do when I m low on cash. Anyway, I am real excited for tomorrow, I just hope Cotto makes weight on his 1st try so he has a ton of time to replenish the nutrients he has lost this week.
Yea I'm not a D-Hop fan either, like I said, I was very close to turning the fight off midway through it. He's very boring and despite the fact that he has champion talent he seems afraid to fight like it.

I don't have 4 friends who will be interested in a Miguel Cotto fight lol. Maybe I could gather up a few for the Tarver Hopkins fight, but even I don't want to buy that. It could be exciting... but I highly doubt it.

If the Cotto fight would've been 29.99 my Dad and I were going to purchase it.
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You need some more friends that are into boxing. LOL
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No ****, but if you haven't realized yet, nobody is into boxing like we are. Hell, just look at this forum, me, you, and like 3 other posters are the only people at all interested in boxing.


I was gonna have some friends over for the Castillo vs Corrales fight but than Castillo's ***** muhfuckin ass didn't make weight. My one friend had "F--- Castillo!" in his away message the entire week lol.


I'm definitely converting people but it's not an easy task.
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Yeah, its a pretty sad state now, we need an exciting, young heavyweight because they are all people seem to care about.
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No ***********, but if you haven't realized yet, nobody is into boxing like we are. Hell, just look at this forum, me, you, and like 3 other posters are the only people at all interested in boxing.


I was gonna have some friends over for the Castillo vs Corrales fight but than Castillo's *********** muhfuckin ass didn't make weight. My one friend had "F--- Castillo!" in his away message the entire week lol.


I'm definitely converting people but it's not an easy task.
i love boxing, and i know the boxers and love watching the fights. But I cant retain knowledge from fights. When i watch them i see whats going on and catch on to the strategies, but that all gets overshadowed by the excitement or boredom of the fight that i cant retain what i was just yelling during the fight. Im a fan, just very unknowledgeable
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http://www.fightnews.com/katz09.htm


An article on the Hopkins vs Tarver fight. Pretty much repeats everything I've alread told you guys. Unless you're a HUGE boxing fan, like as big as me and Rob or bigger, you really shouldn't waste your money on this fight. There's like a 1 in 30 chance that it will be exciting. Keep in mind... 30 fights in boxing is like a 10 year career...
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No ***********, but if you haven't realized yet, nobody is into boxing like we are. Hell, just look at this forum, me, you, and like 3 other posters are the only people at all interested in boxing.


I was gonna have some friends over for the Castillo vs Corrales fight but than Castillo's *********** muhfuckin ass didn't make weight. My one friend had "F--- Castillo!" in his away message the entire week lol.


I'm definitely converting people but it's not an easy task.
i love boxing, and i know the boxers and love watching the fights. But I cant retain knowledge from fights. When i watch them i see whats going on and catch on to the strategies, but that all gets overshadowed by the excitement or boredom of the fight that i cant retain what i was just yelling during the fight. Im a fan, just very unknowledgeable
This was the same thing I was about 5 years ago. I'd watch the fights if I was home or if it was convenient to me, I'd enjoy them but retain nothing from them including the names of the fighters that I had watched.


Times have changed though and I've grown to absolutely love the sport.


I think if you actually try to be a boxer it makes you appreciate it that much more. I'd bet that 80% of the users on this site couldn't box someone for 3 (3 minute) rounds... It's much harder than it seems.

Fighters who still have power in the 12th round are in as good as, or better shape than the most premier players in the NFL.

Baseball players, Basketball players, they really have no idea what it's like to be in the physical condition boxers are in (below heavyweight division of course, those guys are fat slobs who should be fighitng at light heavy or super middle).
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An article on the Hopkins vs Tarver fight. Pretty much repeats everything I've alread told you guys. Unless you're a HUGE boxing fan, like as big as me and Rob or bigger, you really shouldn't waste your money on this fight. There's like a 1 in 30 chance that it will be exciting. Keep in mind... 30 fights in boxing is like a 10 year career...
i definitely didnt expect it to be exciting. Only time i was excited during a Hopkins fight recently was when he was finally losing to Taylor. I remember he fought Eastman before his duo of fights with Taylor. One of the most boring fights ive ever witnessed
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Total sidenote...

A guy on another forum was in AC today, at the Borgata, and saw Osi, Arrington, Plaxico Burress, and Richard Seymour. He said his bro met Vernon Davis as well. A couple more sports names, but those are the 4 football players he mentioned.
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An article on the Hopkins vs Tarver fight. Pretty much repeats everything I've alread told you guys. Unless you're a HUGE boxing fan, like as big as me and Rob or bigger, you really shouldn't waste your money on this fight. There's like a 1 in 30 chance that it will be exciting. Keep in mind... 30 fights in boxing is like a 10 year career...
i definitely didnt expect it to be exciting. Only time i was excited during a Hopkins fight recently was when he was finally losing to Taylor. I remember he fought Eastman before his duo of fights with Taylor. One of the most boring fights ive ever witnessed
I saw it too. Ugh.
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Where can i follow the fight on the internet? I thought it was on ESPN.com but i can't find it
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HOPKINS DOMINATED TARVER!

So who here thinks this really is his last fight?
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He will never fight again. Zbikowski with a first round TKO. Go Irish
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I pretty much called that Hopkins fight to a T. I know my boxing people :P , don't listen to the odds makers in Vegas, listen to Primetime.

Cotto screwed him up (might have broke his jaw they say) but couldn't get the KO. Oh well, good performance from him and it looks like he's moving up to 147.
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those fights were pretty good.
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Didnt see the Hopkins fight yet, but heard he looked amazing. I am glad for that, I wanted to see him go out on top. Cotto messed up Paulie, broke his jaw, nose, and cheekbone, and cut him over the eye and on his mouth. He didnt look great, but he got the win, now he can move up to 147 where he will be more comfortable.
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Didnt see the Hopkins fight yet, but heard he looked amazing. I am glad for that, I wanted to see him go out on top. Cotto messed up Paulie, broke his jaw, nose, and cheekbone, and cut him over the eye and on his mouth. He didnt look great, but he got the win, now he can move up to 147 where he will be more comfortable.
Wow. I would like to see a pic of that! I was reading what happened before that fight on fightnews.com and I saw how many exciting fights there were before that fight and I figured you were having a great time.
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i was out all night and this is the first ive heard about the Cotto fight so far. Id like to see it.
and i knew Hopkins would win
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Didnt see the Hopkins fight yet, but heard he looked amazing. I am glad for that, I wanted to see him go out on top. Cotto messed up Paulie, broke his jaw, nose, and cheekbone, and cut him over the eye and on his mouth. He didnt look great, but he got the win, now he can move up to 147 where he will be more comfortable.
Wow. I would like to see a pic of that! I was reading what happened before that fight on fightnews.com and I saw how many exciting fights there were before that fight and I figured you were having a great time.
Yeah, it was awesome. The crowd was crazy all night. Duddy got a huge ovation as well as Tommy Z and Cotto. Amzing night. I will post where to dowload the cotto fight in a second. Paulkie is freaking tough though man, he kept coming. He gained my respect.
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to download the cotto fight: http://www.profibox.hu/shared/Cotto...gi_New_York.nsv

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Both are NSV files, so if you do not have it you will have to download WinAmp to play them. It doesnt take long.
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** I think We should just keep this thread going for this weekends Winky vs Taylor fight. I'll just change the name to Official Boxing thread.
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I got Winky Wright on this one...
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** I think We should just keep this thread going for this weekends Winky vs Taylor fight. I'll just change the name to Official Boxing thread.

We could do that, I wish we could get a mod in here to delete all of the previous posts though. If you want, I'll do my typical 3-4 paragraph HYPE post on thursday or friday and you can put it on the first post. I'll go into slight detail on both fighters, inform the public how the fight will probably go, predict who i think will win, and post links of short articles from various websites that give background and hype up the fight. Like what I did for the Oscar vs Mayorga fight and the Castillo vs Corralles fight.


I'm excited for the Taylor vs Wright fight and I'm still not %100 sure who I think will come away victorious. You should edit in a poll on who posters think will win so people can interact with the thread too.


Lmao at all the things I just suggested. Sorry.

I might have to download that Cotto fight but I'll just catch the Hopkins one on replay on HBO.





Rob, I'd like your take on that Duddy. My Dad mentioned him a few times last night but I really have never heard of him. What do you know about him and how good is he really? My Dad said he's a tough ass Irish fighter that may (he only saw 1 or 2 of his fights so he's not %100 sure) be the real deal.
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