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Old 02-17-2012, 03:18 PM    (permalink
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wicket, first let me commend you for your bluntness and honesty. Some posters (not from this forum) might not have taken the high road and just called me some four-letter words and that would have been the end of it. You; however, have given us more insight on your dislike of the Saints' trade in last year's draft and I appreciate it.

That said, I realize that we are on opposite sides of the coin on this issue. Sure, as a draftnik (just like everyone here), I dislike the fact that the Saints do not have a first round selection due to the Ingram deal. The fact we did so well without Ingram for the last few games of the season also weighs heavily in your argument's corner.

I suppose the thing that sticks with me the most is the fact that Ingram, in my opinion, could, could have the potential to become the feature back in New Orleans' offense, if given the opportunity. I truly believe that. I know this could be considered blasphemy, but I feel Ingram is a more balanced back than Chris Ivory and is more polished than Pierre Thomas. Of course, he is nothing like the "Swiss Army Knife" of our offense, Darren Sproles, but then, no one (not even Reggie Bush) is.

I agree with you, though, neither you nor I are in the Saints' front office (even if we have done our fair share of mock drafts and played Madden dynasties for years) and do not have the professional background they have. Although, there have always been some head scratchers in terms of questionable picks the Saints have made in the past, I have faith that this one will turn out for the best in the long run. And if I'm wrong, well, what can I say, it wouldn't be the first time that I've been wrong and it sure as hell won't be the last.
Its not that we dont have a first I care about, its what we spent for that 1st.

As long as Payton/Brees are here, there will not be a feature back so it was kinda pointless for our team to draft one.

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I know that several of us are not in agreement in the Saints decision in the 2011 NFL Draft to trade our first rounder this year in order to move up and select Mark Ingram.

Whether you agree, disagree or are neutral is neither here nor there. The question I have for you is this, who do you want the Saints to select with our first selection in this year's draft? Who do you think the Saints should target? Who would you select if you were Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton and the whole krewe down there in New Orleans?
Bruce Irvin. We need pass rush and he is best that could be available to us.

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its a tough one, if by some miracle zach brown would be available hed be my pick but id be fine with guys like wagner, david and burfict with the first pick. I dont think all of em would be available though, maybe one or two
Zach Brown would be nice.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:56 PM    (permalink
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I think if we keep hoping they draft a LB, eventually they will listen to us and do it. However, there is a great deal to play out in FA before I make any "written in stone" predictions. I would like to see us look at Kendell Reyes or Bobby Wagner.
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If they listen, theyll just point out they drafted Tez and Nate last year. We need to realize we will always go BPA.
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If they listen, theyll just point out they drafted Tez and Nate last year. We need to realize we will always go BPA.
they almost go away from needs just to prove they will go "bpa"

honestly I dont think there is such a thing as picking BPA as there are needs and fits and such to consider and everyone saying they would truely pick bpa are kidding themselves
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they almost go away from needs just to prove they will go "bpa"

honestly I dont think there is such a thing as picking BPA as there are needs and fits and such to consider and everyone saying they would truely pick bpa are kidding themselves
We used to not know about fits Cough JasonDavid cough.

I really like Irvin though. I feel he could provide pass rush early, and can develop into a 3 down LB in the future.
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Cough Bruce Irvin Cough.

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Well, I suppose we can throw in the towel for this year's draft... looks like we're going to lose the majority of our early round selections. (shakes head)
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Yeah, I think it's safe to say that the 2012 NFL Draft has gone down the toilet already. That said I hope we find out the punishment sooner rather then later so that the front office can know what they are working with entering the draft and more importantly free agency.
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Its a boring draft waiting until round 3, but are Saints fans anticipating the draft? What are some of the team's needs?
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I can't wait for the Draft! Even though we aren't selecting until late in the third round I still love the Draft :)

I think we will continue to go for the best player available which most of the time means that we take the guy that should have been taken earlier (e.g. Martez Wilson, Jimmy Graham, Charles Brown, Carl Nicks). Hopefully we can find a guy or two that will contribute in 2012, but selecting so late I wouldn't expect any starters for this upcoming season. I think it will be mostly positioning ourselves for 2013 and beyond.
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our front 7 was in dire straits before FA but the FO is fixing that with smart contracts, basically the saints could use a linebacker above all but also DTs, a CB and a speed receiver
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The compensatory picks will be announced soon. Let's cross our fingers and hope for some more picks. We sure need it

Update: Sadly, no compensatory picks for us.
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No, but we will be due some next year for sure.
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I'm doing a mock draft on twitter with fellow draftniks and through six rounds this is what the Saints draft is looking like:

3. TE Ladarius Green, UL-Lafayette
4. WR T.Y. Hilton, Florida International
5. OT James Brown, Troy
6. DT Jaye Howard, Florida

I'm loving it, if I do say so myself
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3. TE Ladarius Green, UL-Lafayette
4. WR T.Y. Hilton, Florida International
5. OT James Brown, Troy
6. DT Jaye Howard, Florida

I'm loving it, if I do say so myself
Could be another Colston
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I've been thinking the exact same thing
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3. TE Ladarius Green, UL-Lafayette
4. WR T.Y. Hilton, Florida International
5. OT James Brown, Troy
6. DT Jaye Howard, Florida

I'm loving it, if I do say so myself
Hilton is flat out fast. I coach with the father of one of his teammates, CB, Sam Miller.
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I would love it if we could get Ladarius Green. Pairing him with Jimmy Graham would be amazing!
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I just finished the draft. Here's the final result

3. TE Ladarius Green
4. WR T.Y. Hilton
5. OT James Brown
6. DT Jaye Howard
7. DE Frank Alexander

Overall, I think that's a pretty impressive haul and I'd be happy in the pants if that's how the Saints draft went in April
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3. TE Ladarius Green
4. WR T.Y. Hilton
5. OT James Brown
6. DT Jaye Howard
7. DE Frank Alexander

Overall, I think that's a pretty impressive haul and I'd be happy in the pants if that's how the Saints draft went in April
personally not the biggest fan of TY hilton for the saints offense but overall a good job
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I agree. This Draft is going to be all about Value at each Pick, because our Draft has been butchered down (missing our 1st, and 2nd rounder this year) it's going to be all about the bang for the buck we can get at each pick.
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I tried going BPA with each pick, most just happened to be on offense.
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Looks like a good haul, diab. If somehow Alshon Jeffrey is there for us at our pick, I think we should really jump on that. I'd like Green too, though.
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Just finished another mock draft where I was the Saints. All of these involve a ton of draft niks from twitter. Here's what the Saints draft looked like:

3. Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
4. Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
5. Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State
6. Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
7. Robert Golden, CB, Arizona

This draft was really difficult as most of my targets were sniped one to two picks ahead of where I was drafting.
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Just finished another mock draft where I was the Saints. All of these involve a ton of draft niks from twitter. Here's what the Saints draft looked like:

3. Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
4. Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
5. Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State
6. Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
7. Robert Golden, CB, Arizona

This draft was really difficult as most of my targets were sniped one to two picks ahead of where I was drafting.
Out of all five picks, I like round 4 and 5 the most.
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