New and Improved Free Agency Discussion and News Mega-Thread - Page 467

VernonLawson89 · 04-03-2012, 01:36 PM

49ers to host free agent Center, Jason Brown.

Maybe we try him @ RG?

ChiFan24 · 04-03-2012, 02:11 PM

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I think so, so much of that frustration stems from the fact that about 80% of the posters on here knew exactly what would happen with Gabbert, and he was selected Top 10 anyways. Anyone who knows a god damned thing about football knew after watching him in college that he wasn't going to be a successful NFL QB...You can have all the physical tools in the world, but if you're afraid to get hit then you don't belong on a football field, that's all there is to it. And even if you can get away with it (Antonio Cromartie...), you certainly can't be a QB and a ******* leader of men if you're out there acting like a pansy.

Agreed. I had him #32 out of 32 on my big board, just to be safe (in case i was missing something) but I fully expected a bust. And I still do. It's frustrating that Gene Smith and similar GM's can have jobs but miss something that was so obvious to most of this board. I get that. But my God, some people need to give it a rest. He sucks. He's not the anti-Christ.

BeerBaron · 04-03-2012, 02:14 PM

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Agreed. I had him #32 out of 32 on my big board, just to be safe (in case i was missing something) but I fully expected a bust. And I still do. It's frustrating that Gene Smith and similar GM's can have jobs but miss something that was so obvious to most of this board. I get that. But my God, some people need to give it a rest. He sucks. He's not the anti-Christ.

Want to...make joke....so bad.......

But NO. I am done talking about Tebow this offseason.

ChiFan24 · 04-03-2012, 02:25 PM

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Want to...make joke....so bad.......

But NO. I am done talking about Tebow this offseason.

Come on. I put it on a platter for you. You know you want to.

Scotty D · 04-03-2012, 02:47 PM

How many Gabbert sucks circlejerks can happen in one off-season? Holy ****

phlysac · 04-03-2012, 02:52 PM

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49ers to host free agent Center, Jason Brown.

Maybe we try him @ RG?

Depth at best.

njx9 · 04-03-2012, 02:57 PM

meh. i blame that one dude last offseason who was in love with him for most of the residual hate. sort of like futurescout and reggie mcneal a long time ago, the caste idiots and every white player ever, notre dame fans and brady quinn/jimmy clausen, etc.

every time some player gets an unreasonably obnoxious fan, the backlash for the following season gets a bit silly. usually it dies down as everyone focuses on the next dude.

tebow might be an exception, because this time it's everyone else on earth who's the troll fan.

BeerBaron · 04-03-2012, 03:00 PM

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meh. i blame that one dude last offseason who was in love with him for most of the residual hate. sort of like futurescout and reggie mcneal a long time ago, the caste idiots and every white player ever, notre dame fans and brady quinn/jimmy clausen, etc.

every time some player gets an unreasonably obnoxious fan, the backlash for the following season gets a bit silly. usually it dies down as everyone focuses on the next dude.

tebow might be an exception, because this time it's everyone else on earth who's the troll fan.

For me, with Gabbert, it's the fact hat so god damn many people knew exactly what his flaws were. Yet we saw him overdrafted, thrust into the starting line up and then.....there were those flaws again. Just like they were every single year of college.

And I don't deal well with stupid, illogical people. It completely defied my notion of common sense to see him end up as a supposed franchise NFL QB prospect getting drafted high.

What did people see that clearly wasn't there?

Rosebud · 04-03-2012, 03:39 PM

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There are plenty of terrible QBs. Hanie was one of them. Hell, damn near every backup who takes over for an extended period ends up one of these except for some very rare exceptions.

But what makes Gabbert worse is that he is a coward. That is bar none the worst trait you can ever exhibit on the field as a player in my mind.

It's not something that is suddenly going to be "corrected." He showed this at Missouri...everyone with a pair of eyes saw it. They watched him eluding ghost rushers and fleeing perfectly good pockets at the slightest hint of pressure.

Yet he still gets drafted high. And goes on to display the same cowardice at the NFL level. The same glaringly obvious flaws that I have no idea how the Jaguars overlooked in order to justify taking him that high.

And look around, it goes beyond me. In the PFT article I posted about his injury, they took shots at him for playing like a scared little mouse.

I would just start dosing Blaine in Camp and hope that going through scrimmage while tripping might re-wire his brain into forgetting about his fear. What's the downside?

Rosebud · 04-03-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron

For me, with Gabbert, it's the fact hat so god damn many people knew exactly what his flaws were. Yet we saw him overdrafted, thrust into the starting line up and then.....there were those flaws again. Just like they were every single year of college.

And I don't deal well with stupid, illogical people. It completely defied my notion of common sense to see him end up as a supposed franchise NFL QB prospect getting drafted high.

What did people see that clearly wasn't there?

At some point you're going to have to accept that vastly flawed guys with "franchise potential" will get drafted way too high in the first round now that the risk is just a pick and not a pick plus beaucoup bucks. It's why you see absolutely talentless stiffs like Thabeet going super high in the NBA draft. The positional importance to risk ratio means it's worth spending every other first round pick on a QB if that's what it takes to get a good one.

njx9 · 04-03-2012, 03:47 PM

beaucoup, fwiw.

Rosebud · 04-03-2012, 03:48 PM

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beaucoup, fwiw.

Now you're just ******* with me, you americans seriously need to get this whole spelling thing figured out and quit being such fucknuts about it.

ChiFan24 · 04-03-2012, 03:50 PM

What the hell is a beaucoup?!?

njx9 · 04-03-2012, 03:52 PM

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Now you're just ******* with me, you americans seriously need to get this whole spelling thing figured out and quit being such fucknuts about it.

hey, blame the idiot french for pushing their words into our language and not having the decency to spell them properly.

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What the hell is a beaucoup?!?

"an abundance of", "lots". i don't feel like looking it up, but that's close enough. pronounced 'bo-koo' usually, though apparently 'boo-koo' is also acceptable.

Hines · 04-03-2012, 03:59 PM

David Hawthorne signs with the Saints for 5 years. Interesting.

LTgiants · 04-03-2012, 04:06 PM

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David Hawthorne signs with the Saints for 5 years. Interesting.

How many MLB do the Saints need?

Bert Macklin · 04-03-2012, 04:10 PM

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David Hawthorne signs with the Saints for 5 years. Interesting.

Complex · 04-03-2012, 04:11 PM

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How many MLB do the Saints need?

Maybe the are going to run the 2-5 defense

Bert Macklin · 04-03-2012, 04:12 PM

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How many MLB do the Saints need?

We had to replace Shanle, Dunbar, and Vilma who will be suspended.

Rosebud · 04-03-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

hey, blame the idiot french for pushing their words into our language and not having the decency to spell them properly.

"an abundance of", "lots". i don't feel like looking it up, but that's close enough. pronounced 'bo-koo' usually, though apparently 'boo-koo' is also acceptable.

Just like when russians use stupid french words I'm going to blame you people for integrating them into your language. You should know better than to trust the french to spell something.

njx9 · 04-03-2012, 04:25 PM

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Just like when russians use stupid french words I'm going to blame you people for integrating them into your language. You should know better than to trust the french to spell something.

that's probably fair.

Job Reborn · 04-03-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

hey, blame the idiot french for pushing their words into our language and not having the decency to spell them properly.

"an abundance of", "lots". i don't feel like looking it up, but that's close enough. pronounced 'bo-koo' usually, though apparently 'boo-koo' is also acceptable.

boo-koo is used more often, though the "oo" part is prunounced very slightly differently in a way i wouldn't know how to explain. (Well, I do if you know a bit of linguistics : it would be the sound "u" and not "ü" in phonetic transcription)

And y'all shut up. French is beautiful.

Rosebud · 04-03-2012, 04:33 PM

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boo-koo is used more often, though the "oo" part is prunounced very slightly differently in a way i wouldn't know how to explain.

And y'all shut up. French is beautiful.

Maybe to the illiterate.

Complex · 04-03-2012, 04:41 PM

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Free agent DE Dave Tollefson will visit the Raiders on Tuesday.
The Newark Star-Ledger reports Tollefson is also set to visit the Titans after spending the weekend in Green Bay. According to the National Football Post, the Packers remain "in the mix" for the former Giant.

He any good?

scottyboy · 04-03-2012, 04:42 PM

Where are the saints getting this money and how they gonna pay brees?