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Old 04-06-2012, 12:25 AM    (permalink
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I'm starting to think about how sexy something like this would look for years...


Joe Staley | Mike Iupati | Daniel Kilgore | Amini Silatolu | Anthony Davis
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Lets not forget about Person. Word is he's a guy who could be a jack of all trades, ala Synder. And I really like Boone as the future at LT. But if Kilgore could man Center and we drafted a stud OG, that would be one hell of a interior to build from.
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And I really like Boone as the future at LT.
Staley being signed through 2017 certainly makes that interesting.
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Staley being signed through 2017 certainly makes that interesting.
2017? I thought it through was 2014? Meh, Im not the biggest Staley fan....if Boone continues to make strides, it could get interesting as Staley's cap number increases.
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Staley is signed through the 2017 season. He did good in 2011. Giving up only six sacks and no holding penalties. Below are his salaries for the rest of his contract and I dont see him losing his starting LT spot until 2015 unless he gets injured. $5.1m for the next three seasons to be the starting LT. Thats mad cheap. Oh well, yay for us. :)

2012: $1.3 million, 2013: $1.6 million, 2014: $2.2 million, 2015: $4 million, 2016: $4.9 million, 2017: $5.75 million, 2018: Free Agent
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im still baffled how harbaugh looked at bruce miller and saw a fullback.. and a damn good one at that. i think he was such a steal
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maulers. trench dogs at its finest. i hope anthony davis reaches his potential because if he does, its gonna get ugly
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maulers. trench dogs at its finest. i hope anthony davis reaches his potential because if he does, its gonna get ugly
I feel like him and Iupati were the two guys hit the hardest by the lockout. I am expecting both of them to make huge leaps this year.
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I feel like him and Iupati were the two guys hit the hardest by the lockout. I am expecting both of them to make huge leaps this year.
My thoughts as well....
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if we got a dog guard to play next to davis and move kilgore to center.. easily the nastiest o line in the game.. easily
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How many picks is it going to cost to trade up into the teens, in the case Decastro falls past the Bengals? 1st, 3rd, and 5th? Or move up in the second to get Zeitler or Silatolu? Given we're picking 32nd next season, perhaps we trade out of the 1st alltogether and stockpile next seasons draft.
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How many picks is it going to cost to trade up into the teens, in the case Decastro falls past the Bengals? 1st, 3rd, and 5th? Or move up in the second to get Zeitler or Silatolu? Given we're picking 32nd next season, perhaps we trade out of the 1st alltogether and stockpile next seasons draft.
It would cost far, far too much to get DeCastro but...

What are people's thoughts on dealing next year's 1st for a really high 2nd?

Sacrifice next years 1st rd for 3 of the top 60 this season?
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What are people's thoughts on dealing next year's 1st for a really high 2nd?

Sacrifice next years 1st rd for 3 of the top 60 this season?
I am thinking if Fleener and Hill are off the board the Niners are going to trade into the second and pick up a 1 next year.
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I am thinking if Fleener and Hill are off the board the Niners are going to trade into the second and pick up a 1 next year.
Agree. They are at a point talent-wise that if their guy isn't there, then they can trade down and stockpile for this year or next year. I'd prefer mainly future picks as they already have so many roster locks right now as it is. They don't need to be taking guys in the late 4th or early 5th that may not make the P-Squad due to other weaker teams swooping.
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I am thinking if Fleener and Hill are off the board the Niners are going to trade into the second and pick up a 1 next year.
Agree. With that said, im still hoping for Fleener the most followed by Hill. If we get either, I'll be happy but if both are available, I prefer Fleener. If both are gone, then trading for a future first would be awesome.
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You're assuming someone will want to trade up.
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You're assuming someone will want to trade up.
I think someone will try and trade up for one of the DT's if a guy like Still, or Reyes is still there. Also I think a team trading up to get Osweiler there is a possibility, but it's a huge darkhorse scenario.
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Kilgore sexy? Based on what? Remember when everybody thought Rachal was going to be a pro bowl RG? Seems everybody overestimates OL that haven't done anything yet.
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if we got a dog guard to play next to davis and move kilgore to center.. easily the nastiest o line in the game.. easily
I guess everybody is drinking the Kilgore gatorade? lol
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well you must have the inside beat on kilgore. if the coaches and baalke are penciling him in as the starter, im going with their judgement
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well you must have the inside beat on kilgore. if the coaches and baalke are penciling him in as the starter, im going with their judgement
Yeah well Trent also penciled in Rachal as a long term, dominant Guard. I'm just not overly confident in a late round draft pick who could not even get a handful of snaps last year. Really no reason to think he can start.
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Yeah well Trent also penciled in Rachal as a long term, dominant Guard. I'm just not overly confident in a late round draft pick who could not even get a handful of snaps last year. Really no reason to think he can start.
actually when trent moved to general manager, chilo rachal got demoted to 2nd string. jim harbaugh is the guy who makes the decisions on depth chart though, im sure.. but nice try.

kilgore is athletic and nasty. whats not to be excited about. we have a physical right guard for a change.

and even when its all laid out, i would trust trent baalke and jim harbaughs decision making, when it comes to football, over yours 100 times over.
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actually when trent moved to general manager, chilo rachal got demoted to 2nd string. jim harbaugh is the guy who makes the decisions on depth chart though, im sure.. but nice try.

kilgore is athletic and nasty. whats not to be excited about. we have a physical right guard for a change.

and even when its all laid out, i would trust trent baalke and jim harbaughs decision making, when it comes to football, over yours 100 times over.
Lol it's great to be naive and all but have you ever thought that maybe there's a reason Kilgore was a late round pick and did not sniff the field last year?
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Lol it's great to be naive and all but have you ever thought that maybe there's a reason Kilgore was a late round pick and did not sniff the field last year?
They did trade up for him. Maybe they had a higher grade on him than where they drafted him.

As for not seeing the field his rookie year, thats hardly an indictment. Lots of players don't see time their rookie year, and many that do struggle. A full season and offseason of learning can do wonders. I'm not saying he will be a stud, i'm just saying don't write him off because he's young and inexperienced.
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Lol it's great to be naive and all but have you ever thought that maybe there's a reason Kilgore was a late round pick and did not sniff the field last year?
late round pick.. division 1-aa player. believe it or not, you dont have to be picked in the 1st or 2nd round to be a good player. your chances at playing dont die at the draft if you're not chosen on day 1. especially at offensive line.

jahri evans OG round 4
carl nicks OG round 5
jason peters OT undrafted
shaun o'hara OG undrafted
tyson clabo OT undrafted
donald penn OT undrafted
brian waters OG undrafted
kris dielman OG undrafted
jeff saturday C undrafted

now these are just guys from the 2011 pro bowl roster. am i saying kilgore is gonna be like them? no. he might not even come close. but the coaching staff believes hes ready to be a starter, so i believe hes ready to be a starter.

didn't sniff the field. its called development. aaron rodgers didn't see playing time for 3 seasons and nobody closed the book on him. what do you think? people just get drafted and if they dont go high, they dont play? they dont get a chance to the develope their game? why even have a 7 round draft? why not have 1 round every year?

anthony davis was thrown in the fire from day 1 and got his ass whooped for most of the season. is that what you wanna see from kilgore? instead of a years worth of development before he touches the field? and you call me naive?
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