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Old 04-18-2012, 03:45 PM    (permalink
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hey, yo, f**** u.

We are not smug, just bitter we have to be indoor kids all through college.
I didn't say all of you are. There are many that act like

1. They are the only ones with a hard workload.
2. Every last one of them will be greeted out of college with a 6 figure paying job simply because they graduated.
3. Engineering is the only profession that matters. Like, at all. Economics? Statistics? Psshhh, we could do that no problem.
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Oh, yeah I know what you mean, I know a few of those kids. They are jags.

2. lol, yeah right.
3. Hahha they'll be in for a rude awakening, when they get to the work force and realize all there amazing ideas are shot down because of $$, or it can't be marketed with a cool name.
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Or they've refused to develop any social skills whatsoever that leads them to fail hard in their interviews.
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Everyone right now fails at big interviews, that isn't subjected to just kids with social awkward skills at the moment. I forgot who posted it, but that comparison of the college grad and high school grad interview was spot on in this thread.
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Or they've refused to develop any social skills whatsoever that leads them to fail hard in their interviews.
nah, the ones who have that problem are usually the super nerds that can do the complex problems, so they are put in the think tank(r and d, mostly R). But even if they have social problems, sometimes you can't pass up on them, people will just have to work with them.
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I have a lot of friends that didn't struggle at all in their engineering interviews and got offers fairly quickly, and i also have a couple that i know that have been constantly rejected after interviews despite having superb resumes. You aren't gonna tell me there isn't a correlation between having crappy social skills and failing countless interviews.
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I have a lot of friends that didn't struggle at all in their engineering interviews and got offers fairly quickly, and i also have a couple that i know that have been constantly rejected after interviews despite having superb resumes. You aren't gonna tell me there isn't a correlation between having crappy social skills and failing countless interviews.
there is, but its all dependent on what the position entails. Usually with the entry positions you are not going to work by yourself.

They should try for grad school and then apply for some jobs, and even if they get rejeceted at that point, well then they are a loss cause.
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it is impressive how godawful people are at interviewing. i've lost count of the times i had to tell someone to take a deep breath, or re-asked a question because they didn't answer it, or whatever. i don't understand why it's so hard.
Maybe its because I am just a very social person but I find it very easy to relate to people within only a few minutes and try to measure what they are looking for. So far I am a perfect 100% for all my job interviews but I'm sure that will change once I start applying to bigger jobs.
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I didn't say all of you are. There are many that act like

1. They are the only ones with a hard workload.
2. Every last one of them will be greeted out of college with a 6 figure paying job simply because they graduated.
3. Engineering is the only profession that matters. Like, at all. Economics? Statistics? Psshhh, we could do that no problem.
1 and 3 are false... but if you an engineer and you aren't walking into a 6 figure job straight out of college then you aren't using your engineering degree and really those types probably aren't the ones that are doing 1 and 3 anyway.

My worst paid engineering mate was on 150k as a graduate engineer and I have about 10 mates that are engineers.

So either all the engineers I know are "elite"(hint: they aren't) or they have every reason to expect a 6 figure job when they graduate because well... it's pretty damn hard to work as an engineer and not have a 6 figure income, hell I know a guy who works part time as an engineer and is on a 6 figure income.
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Haha at the idea that engineers really even interview for a job. 90% of them will be head hunted out of university and the other 10% already had a full time job before they finished.

Yes I may regret having not done engineering...
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i think this is more like (presuming it really is an 'entry level' type position) the restaurant example above. "you don't have relevant experience" is a nice way of saying "we have better applicants (who probably have more experience)".
I had a friend who went through this, and he was actually extremely well qualified for an academic post-doc position (3 publications in 3 major journals during his PhD). He wanted to stay in town because of family, and HR said no. Ended up going to his 2nd choice, which had a higher salary.

IMO, it's kinda like graduating from the Culinary Institute of America, applying for restaurant work, and getting turned down because "you aren't qualified enough."
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I have a lot of friends that didn't struggle at all in their engineering interviews and got offers fairly quickly, and i also have a couple that i know that have been constantly rejected after interviews despite having superb resumes. You aren't gonna tell me there isn't a correlation between having crappy social skills and failing countless interviews.
Agreed. I was talking to an USAF Lt. Col and he doesn't know my GPA what so ever, but just from talking to me and hearing my major, he told me to contact him because he'll do his best to get me working under him when I graduate.

Granted, if I'm getting through all of AFROTC, my GPA won't be too bad (but doesn't mean it will be great either).
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Agreed. I was talking to an USAF Lt. Col and he doesn't know my GPA what so ever, but just from talking to me and hearing my major, he told me to contact him because he'll do his best to get me working under him when I graduate.

Granted, if I'm getting through all of AFROTC, my GPA won't be too bad (but doesn't mean it will be great either).
He must have been drunk, was trying to be civil, or he was an idiot because that is not how the commission selection process works at all.

That isn't a knock against you or your course work, but he should know better.
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1 and 3 are false... but if you an engineer and you aren't walking into a 6 figure job straight out of college then you aren't using your engineering degree and really those types probably aren't the ones that are doing 1 and 3 anyway.

My worst paid engineering mate was on 150k as a graduate engineer and I have about 10 mates that are engineers.

So either all the engineers I know are "elite"(hint: they aren't) or they have every reason to expect a 6 figure job when they graduate because well... it's pretty damn hard to work as an engineer and not have a 6 figure income, hell I know a guy who works part time as an engineer and is on a 6 figure income.
im guessing this is only Australia... definitely not like this in the US. Avg starting for EEs here is in the 60k's.

edit: undergrad
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1 and 3 are false... but if you an engineer and you aren't walking into a 6 figure job straight out of college then you aren't using your engineering degree and really those types probably aren't the ones that are doing 1 and 3 anyway.

My worst paid engineering mate was on 150k as a graduate engineer and I have about 10 mates that are engineers.

So either all the engineers I know are "elite"(hint: they aren't) or they have every reason to expect a 6 figure job when they graduate because well... it's pretty damn hard to work as an engineer and not have a 6 figure income, hell I know a guy who works part time as an engineer and is on a 6 figure income.
The average salary in Australia does not encompass the entire world. We're talking USA here.
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