Television Discussion Thread

[Jvig43]

See I actually enjoyed S1e2 better than the pilot, the pilot seemed like a blatant rip off of 28 days later (which granted is the from the comic so I don't knock the show alot for that). The mid season finale that you call awesome was just more of the same for me, oh sophia is in the barn the whole time? Wow lets just ignore all reality for a second to believe that is what happened. And maybe heroes became a joke with the way its characters changed, but at least they didn't focus an entire half season looking for a character that no one cared about to begin with because for some reason the writers thought that anyone in their sane mind would leave a little girl in the woods by herself with zombies everywhere. Or the fact that everyone on that show became psychic and just all of a sudden knew Shane killed Otis to get away from the zombie horde, because God knows the writers needed an easy way out to bring that drama into the show (It seriously should just be called the talking dead with the amount of unnecessary drama the writers try squeezing in at every turn).

I know Heroes had terrible plot holes, I sat through them all with my roommate but it was a damn good show with damn good characters at one point. And maybe thats why you view it as a shittier show, but TWD never even started with what Heroes had in season one. Regardless both shows squandered their potential, and I don't see how Rick going all adolf hitler on the group about who is in charge, or a sword wielding zombie chick is going to fix the problems of terrible writing, terrible characters, and massive plot holes. But hey we'll find out in season 3 wont we because I'll be here to ***** about it if it doesn't end up improving.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I also thought Season 2 was awful throughout. Lame shock moments, boring twists, awful writing, terrible acting, just really ******. I honestly think The Killing is better (though I have yet to watch any of season 2).

[Jvig43]

I haven't watched any of season 2 killing either, but I will say if the show had just ended this case at the end of season 1 without that lame plot twist, I think people would have been more receptive to sticking around for a second season.

[TheBoyWonder22]

Seriously. It's not as if the Larsens are interesting characters that need to be kept on to further the plot like the Palmers on Twin Peaks. Any scene featuring their family was the worst scene of the episode.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Jvig43

I haven't watched any of season 2 killing either, but I will say if the show had just ended this case at the end of season 1 without that lame plot twist, I think people would have been more receptive to sticking around for a second season.

I though they would move on to a new case this year. Would have been great. I actually liked the show somewhat until they pulled that ****. I do not give a **** who killed Rosie Larson anymore and I am not sure I will ever watch an episode of that show. All that said TWD is more entertainingly awful than The Killing. I don't think the writers are talented enough to make TWD a truly great show but I just wish they would embrace the very B movie elements of the show and just make it a balls to the wall schlop fest.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Originally Posted by TheBoyWonder22

Seriously. It's not as if the Larsens are interesting characters that need to be kept on to further the plot like the Palmers on Twin Peaks. Any scene featuring their family was the worst scene of the episode.

I got that the mother was grieving but **** was everything about that family awful. Just a really bad decision on the part of the creator and writers that likely killed any chance the show had at being good or for the matter renewed for a third season.

[TheBoyWonder22]

I've come to the conclusion that AMC just genuinely hates families.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Originally Posted by TheBoyWonder22

I've come to the conclusion that AMC just genuinely hates families.

Mad Men and Breaking Bad have some of the most real family interactions I have ever seen (I did not grow up in the 60's but I imagine Mad Men captures the time period perfectly). It is actually funny how awful TWD and The Killing are when compared to Breaking Bad and Mad Men. As much as I will hate to see those two end I am incredibly excited to see what Gilligan and Weiner do next.

[TheBoyWonder22]

Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

Mad Men and Breaking Bad have some of the most real family interactions I have ever seen (I did not grow up in the 60's but I imagine Mad Men captures the time period perfectly). It is actually funny how awful TWD and The Killing are when compared to Breaking Bad and Mad Men. As much as I will hate to see those two end I am incredibly excited to see what Gilligan and Weiner do next.

This is true, I just meant that the characters I dislike most in both BB and MM are coincidentally both family members. I assume it's that way for most everyone.

[vidae]

I've taken taco shits with better writing than any single episode of The Killing. It's just so ******* bad. For a show that asked "Who killed Rosie Larsen?" the writing staff did a ******* FANTASTIC JOB of making NO ONE CARE ABOUT IT. So instead of finishing that awful case last year, they decided to have one last amazingly bad red herring and drag that garbage into this season.

God, just thinking about it is pissing me off. I hope Mitch dies a horrible death and Stan kills himself and then the rest of the cast except Holder dies. Every single one of them.

**** The Killing.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Holder was so awesome though. Then the stupid ******* twist happened.

[TheBoyWonder22]

But now he's not vegan anymore, so that's good (I caught a glimpse before Mad Men).

[Splat]

Originally Posted by Jvig43

I will take east bound and down every day over pysch.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

The Emmys never gave **** to The Wire or The Shield, so they shouldn't be considered too often.

Michael Chikilis won Best Drama Actor for their 1st season on the Shield, all down hill from there.

Speaking of Emmys deserved & undeserved, why does 30 Rock win every yr. for Best Comedy Writing? True, their scripts have some lyao one-liners, & it's about a comedy show writer staff, but yr. after freaking yr.......No love for Community, or Parks & Rec ?

And I am now officially sick of South Park, hang it up, it's over.

[Splat]

As expected Breaking Bad is just as good the second time around.

[Jvig43]

Yeah this season and most of last season of South Park has just been painfully mediocre. Unless they prove they have the passion they once ad for it, its obvious they are just slapping together current pop culture events and making episodes last minute.

[vidae]

I haven't seen a South Park episode in prob 3 years. I just haven't been interested.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by Jvig43

Yeah this season and most of last season of South Park has just been painfully mediocre. Unless they prove they have the passion they once ad for it, its obvious they are just slapping together current pop culture events and making episodes last minute.

Last season was pretty goddamn great, so I'm not sure of the complaints. The episode where Stan started seeing everything as **** was one of the best they've ever done.

[D-Unit]

Somebody has to have seen the Black Donnelly's right? Olivia Wilde!!! C'mon now!

[Bulldogs]

The South Park TSA episode was god damn genius.

[vidae]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Somebody has to have seen the Black Donnelly's right? Olivia Wilde!!! C'mon now!

A lot of us like that show, and Brodeur thinks we overrate it.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by vidae

A lot of us like that show, and Brodeur thinks we overrate it.

Pshhh overrate it? Brodeur is a clown. I was sad that they couldn't continue it. :(

[Brodeur]

It was a decent show that could have been better than it was. Was way too hokey at times for its own good and took itself too seriously. And having a dude like Ziggy from The Wire who doesn't have a decent end is lame.

[diabsoule]

The Black Donnelly's was awesome. I liked even the hokey parts. It was vastly more entertaining than half the **** on tv.

[vidae]

Just finished s4 of Mad Men. Bout to start on s5. \o/