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View Poll Results: What did you think of the Bruce Irvin pick?
Bad pick because there were MANY better players, including pass rushers, on the board. 32 28.57%
Bad pick because of his character red flags. He'll do something stupid. 5 4.46%
Bad pick because he's simply not that good/a development project. 6 5.36%
Bad pick because he's developmental AND has character issues. Too risky. He'll flame out. 26 23.21%
Good pick, but one or two other DEs would have been better. 21 18.75%
Great pick, best pass rusher. NFL knew, media didn't. Perfect fit. He'll prove 'em all wrong. 22 19.64%
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Default What Did YOU Think of Bruce Irvin at #15?

So what did you think and why?

Two points that are INVALID if you claim 'bad pick.'

1) He is not undersized for the position he will play in Seattle's defensive scheme.

2) The idea that they could have gotten him later and should have traded down if he was their target is incorrect. In fact, the GM said that he had an offer on the table but declined because he thought the Jets were going to take him at No. 16.

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Per CBS Sports' Rob Rang, the 49ers, Jets, and Ravens all would have taken Bruce Irvin in the first round had he made it to their pick.
Those are some pretty good-drafting teams. Profootballtalk.com reported late Thursday that as many as seven teams had Irvin as a top-15 overall player on their draft boards. The Irvin pick has been panned as a reach, and ESPN's Mel Kiper called it "mind boggling" after Seattle executed the selection. Kiper has never worked in the league, though, and the NFL vehemently disagrees.
Related: Ravens, 49ers, Jets
Source: Rob Rang on Twitter
From PFT following media/internet/fan/draftnik widespread criticism of the pick:

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Per a league source, at least seven teams had Irvin rated as one of the top 15 players available in the draft.
This is a pre-draft feature that delves into his checkered past:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--we...ot-at-nfl.html
Take from it what you will.

From GM John Schneider ("reached" similarly on James Carpenter last year - struggled in his rookie year; but track record includes Russell Okung, Earl Thomas, late-round gems Kam Chancellor, K.J. Wright, and Richard Sherman, trades for highly productive DE Chris Clemons and RB Marshawn Lynch, UDFA gem Doug Baldwin, and two impressive hauls in veteran FA, highlighted by Sidney Rice, Matt Flynn, and Jason Jones):
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"We obviously viewed him as the best pass rusher in the draft," he said adding he had no interest in waiting to get a player at the risk of losing him. "We had this guy rated as one of the top players in the draft.
Keep in mind that they could have had ANY other outside pass-rusher in the entire draft at No. 15 but chose Irvin.

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"He's rare. This guy comes off the ball like Dwight Freeney and Von Miller and Jevon Kearse. It's like that."
From Pete Carroll:
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"He is exactly the makeup that you are looking for," Carroll said. "This goes all the way back to Charles Haley and Chris Doleman and Derrick Thomas. That is the kind of effect this guy has a chance to have. He has a lot to learn. He is going to have to grow up with us and learn our system. But the makeup of this player is so rare. He looks like a carbon copy of Von Miller rushing the passer."
Extremely interesting from Irvin himself (I believe this quote can be spun positively OR negatively, which makes it pretty fascinating):

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"I know you've all heard I'm a one-trick pony, but the crazy thing is I got 23 sacks in two years and I've never been coached," said Irvin. "That's all athletic ability. So just if I get a little coaching just imagine what I could do."
Lastly, keep in mind that the Seahawks had ONE positional need for the upcoming season - MLB (only if you consider Barrett Ruud an unacceptable starter, which most do).
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