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04-30-2012, 12:38 PM
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Draft Countdown's Values & Reaches
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04-30-2012, 12:51 PM
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The Wilson selection is really inexplicable. With all the scrutiny the draft is under these days, there would have been some 'buzz' about the player, but even folks at Illinois were shocked. I think it just boils down to BB pulling the 'smartest guy in the room' act again. Given the current state of the Patriot pass defense, I don't think he (or whoever is scouting the dbs at NE) qualifies for any special insights into DB talents. The opportunity costs alone (i.e. who we could have drafted instead) just add to how bad this pick will most likely turn out.
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04-30-2012, 01:00 PM
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I still fail to understand the mid round picks for the Ravens. They seem inexplicable to me. Pierce, Gradkowski and Thompson are all such unstereotypical Ravens picks, especially with much better players on the board at every selection.
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04-30-2012, 01:06 PM
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In regards to Wilson, I think we saw a lot of reaches at the safety position this year and that was a direct result of the lack of depth. Similar to tight end, teams were kind of scrambling for solutions and there really wasn't much of a consensus after the top two of Barron and Smith.
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04-30-2012, 01:23 PM
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Are you going to do draft grades by writeup or podcast this year?
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04-30-2012, 01:38 PM
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I personally like Fleming & Bethel's value over Potter but guess we can't have 4 on the list
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04-30-2012, 01:46 PM
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Hicks wasnt a good pick but imo he was about the best value the saints got. The mindbogglers were tiller and white iyam although all picks outside of toon reeked op reaches.
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04-30-2012, 01:47 PM
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#1: David Decastro
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"He won't be able to just use his arm power to throw defenders around at the next level!"
The hell he won't, lol.
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04-30-2012, 02:27 PM
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YES!
This weeks podcast will be a review of the first round and then we will do four consecutive shows breaking down each and every pick, eight teams per week.
As always I will be writing in-depth reviews on each team for the site too, but I spread those out in May in an effort to hopefully keep people coming back during the slow times. :o)
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04-30-2012, 02:28 PM
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Score! Chiefs with one value and no reaches! \o/
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04-30-2012, 02:28 PM
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I personally like Fleming & Bethel's value over Potter but guess we can't have 4 on the list
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Did you think Bethel or Fleming were going to come off the board drastically earlier than they did? Personally, I thought that was right where they were expected to be chosen.
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04-30-2012, 02:29 PM
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I don't think Posey was a reach in the third round. Nate Ebner getting drafting though was funny. Guy was a walk on at Ohio State and was only ever a special teams player and only ever will be a special teams player with absolutely no upside to do anything else. I guess he's more likely to play in the NFL for a decade than any other player taken in the last two rounds though if you think about it, kinda like a longsnapper or kicker.
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04-30-2012, 06:48 PM
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Did you think Bethel or Fleming were going to come off the board drastically earlier than they did? Personally, I thought that was right where they were expected to be chosen.
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about a round later for both, which is what I have for Potter same with Kelemete
Floyd(top 10)
Fleming(2nd)
Massie(2nd)
Kelemete(4th)
Bethel(5th)
Lindley(6th)
Potter(6th)
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05-01-2012, 09:27 AM
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Not sure how Broyles is a reach in round 2. The guy set NCAA records. He may not have elite measurables but he is a great football player. ACL injuries are not a big deal anymore. It has become a routine surgery and the majority have come back with no problems. I have a feeling you will be wrong about this designation. Lions just gave themselves a deadly 4 WR set to match up with Green Bay.
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05-01-2012, 09:33 AM
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i feel like brian quick was a reach, especially considering who was on the board at that point
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05-01-2012, 10:04 AM
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I'd love to see the "reach" and "steal" breakdown from 2007, 8, 9 etc
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05-01-2012, 01:17 PM
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It blows my mind that someone would take a punter in the 3rd round, while the best punter in the draft class (Powell) goes undrafted. How can NFL teams be so stupid?
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