Green Bay Packers Discussion - Page 729

SuperPacker · 05-02-2012, 01:36 PM

Ok guys, im planning on getting my first packers jersey for my birthday in a few months, but i dont have a clue who to get on the back. Woodson is probably my favourite player, but he's old so he wont be playing for us in a few years. Any suggestions?

princefielder28 · 05-02-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker

Ok guys, im planning on getting my first packers jersey for my birthday in a few months, but i dont have a clue who to get on the back. Woodson is probably my favourite player, but he's old so he wont be playing for us in a few years. Any suggestions?

I would say go the safe route and get Rodgers

TimmG6376 · 05-02-2012, 01:42 PM

PPS has replica jerseys on clearance. I ordered a Collins jersey in tribute and will where it this season.

SuperPacker · 05-02-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

I would say go the safe route and get Rodgers

That's too mainstream! Everyone has Rodgers.

But then other than him, i dont see anyone that i love or im certain will be here for a long time. I thought about Cobb, Shields, Woodson and Jennings, but they all have their floors.

eaglesalltheway · 05-02-2012, 02:10 PM

Why not get Matthews, he's young, elite, and a defensive guy, so you don't look like the tools who just where skill position jerseys. If I were a fan of the Packers he'd be #1 on my jersey list.

senormysterioso · 05-02-2012, 02:16 PM

Jordy Nelson is the answer!

SuperPacker · 05-02-2012, 02:18 PM

You're right about Matthews. Dont know why i didnt consider him.

I think i'll either get Woodson or Matthews, probably edging towards Woodson and having it as a tribute once he retires. It would be nice to have it when he gets in the HoF as well.

I wanted to get Perry, but he could obviously bust :/

SuperPacker · 05-02-2012, 02:19 PM

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Jordy Nelson is the answer!

I dont like 87, i know, im picky! :D

Pack_Attack_4 · 05-02-2012, 06:55 PM

How much r the new nike jersys

I hav 4 reebock jersys (Hawk n Favre witch i dont really wear that much and i have A Rod n Matthews)

Pack_Attack_4 · 05-02-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker

That's too mainstream! Everyone has Rodgers.

But then other than him, i dont see anyone that i love or im certain will be here for a long time. I thought about Cobb, Shields, Woodson and Jennings, but they all have their floors.

U cant go wrong with getting the jersy of the best player in the NFL

PackerLegend · 05-03-2012, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker

Ok guys, im planning on getting my first packers jersey for my birthday in a few months, but i dont have a clue who to get on the back. Woodson is probably my favourite player, but he's old so he wont be playing for us in a few years. Any suggestions?

Get Finely.... Jk I know u hate him. Id pick from these and most are pretty safe. Rodgers, Jennings, Raji, Matthews, Woodson and Williams.

Sloopy · 05-05-2012, 11:36 AM

Hey guys, I'm looking for some information about your secondary.

Both Woodson and Williams seemed to produce very well last year (I know Woodson was in the slot but still) and passed the eye test. However, your team placed dead last in opponents passing yards per game. What is the deal?

I could see Woodson moving to safety next year, but it doesn't take away from him and I can't really see any glaring holes or players who need to be replaced.

Was the opponents passing yards per game just because they were always down early and in big holes, thus passing early and often?

What is the deal? Just doesn't seem to add up.

Pack_Attack_4 · 05-05-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sloopy

Hey guys, I'm looking for some information about your secondary.

Both Woodson and Williams seemed to produce very well last year (I know Woodson was in the slot but still) and passed the eye test. However, your team placed dead last in opponents passing yards per game. What is the deal?

I could see Woodson moving to safety next year, but it doesn't take away from him and I can't really see any glaring holes or players who need to be replaced.

Was the opponents passing yards per game just because they were always down early and in big holes, thus passing early and often?

What is the deal? Just doesn't seem to add up.

Losing nick collins erly in the year n Lack of pass rush besides Matthews n us being up on teams all contributed to us havin a bad pass Def.

SuperPacker · 05-05-2012, 02:00 PM

Why did our secondary and pass defense suck?

1. Opposite Clay Matthews we had no one. Teams would just double team on Clay and we would get no pass rush. Therefore making it nearly impossible for the secondary to do their job.

2. Losing Nick Collins in the second game of the season was a big blow. Peprah was decent at best and Burnett was basically a rookie in his first season. Moving Woodson back there to replace Collins would be a positive thing for the secondary IMO.

3. Tramon Williams took a step back, because of his shoulder injury, which apparently was a lot worse than was first realised. His was our #1 corner and opposite him we had Woodson who isn't the best coverer and Sam Shields who was only in his 2nd year of playing cornerback.

cvv84 · 05-05-2012, 08:10 PM

Losing Cullen Jenkins also really hurt. Our entire defensive line was a disappointment IMO. Pickett was invisible all year, Raji ran hot and cold, and Mike Neal got injured again. Jenkins basically was our opposite pass rusher from Matthews.

TimmG6376 · 05-05-2012, 08:58 PM

I agree that the DL was disappointing overall last year.

Pickett is not a pass rusher. Not his game. I'm hoping a couple guys really emerge at DE so that Pickett and Raji can rotate at NT. I think both are better suited there and they bring different skillsets to the position.

Off and on both Raji and Pickett have been forced to play DE and I don't think that is where they fit best. Rotating them at NT would keep them both fresh, but for that to happen some of these other guys need to establish themselves as viable options at DE.

SuperPacker · 05-06-2012, 07:24 AM

Hopefully Jerel Worthy and Mike Daniels can do that. In obvious pass situations we could even put both Daniels and Worthy in for Raji and Pickett. They wouldn't have to do much to get more pas rush than them.

Our 3rd down defense could be very quick and have great pass rush potential. Just swap Raji and Pickett for Worthy and Daniels and Terrell Manning for DJ Smith and we have 7 pass rushers on the field.

Sportsfan486 · 05-06-2012, 03:39 PM

Okay. I keep seeing articles that hit on a pet peeve of mine and I want to discuss it.

The 3-4. The Packers don't run it. Why do people not get this? The 3-4 is our <b>sub</b> package. Our base package is, and will continue to be, a 2-4-5.

I've seen this misconstrued so many times in draft articles it's ridiculous. "Oh, Mike Daniels and Jerel Worthy are really more of penetrating DTs; they don't project well to 3-4 DE. Bad fit for the Packers."
Umm.. we play over 75% of the snaps with two DTs and no DEs. They line up over guards, not tackles. They are far more similar to 2 and/or 3 gap DTs in a 4-3 than any position in a traditional 3-4. Sometimes we play 3-4... sometimes being somewhere between uncommonly and never from game to game.

By the moves TT has made this offseason, it's pretty clear we'll continue in that direction.

Can we start a petition to stop calling the Packers D a 3-4 and start calling it a 2-4-5? It's far more accurate and maybe then the ignorant "experts" that don't even know how our defense lines up and plays will stop making ignorant articles.

cvv84 · 05-06-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmG6376

I agree that the DL was disappointing overall last year.

Pickett is not a pass rusher. Not his game. I'm hoping a couple guys really emerge at DE so that Pickett and Raji can rotate at NT. I think both are better suited there and they bring different skillsets to the position.

Off and on both Raji and Pickett have been forced to play DE and I don't think that is where they fit best. Rotating them at NT would keep them both fresh, but for that to happen some of these other guys need to establish themselves as viable options at DE.

Nobody called Pickett a pass rusher.

cvv84 · 05-06-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsfan486

Okay. I keep seeing articles that hit on a pet peeve of mine and I want to discuss it.

The 3-4. The Packers don't run it. Why do people not get this? The 3-4 is our <b>sub</b> package. Our base package is, and will continue to be, a 2-4-5.

I've seen this misconstrued so many times in draft articles it's ridiculous. "Oh, Mike Daniels and Jerel Worthy are really more of penetrating DTs; they don't project well to 3-4 DE. Bad fit for the Packers."
Umm.. we play over 75% of the snaps with two DTs and no DEs. They line up over guards, not tackles. They are far more similar to 2 and/or 3 gap DTs in a 4-3 than any position in a traditional 3-4. Sometimes we play 3-4... sometimes being somewhere between uncommonly and never from game to game.

By the moves TT has made this offseason, it's pretty clear we'll continue in that direction.

Can we start a petition to stop calling the Packers D a 3-4 and start calling it a 2-4-5? It's far more accurate and maybe then the ignorant "experts" that don't even know how our defense lines up and plays will stop making ignorant articles.

Right. I believe it was Thompson who said that we're basically running a nickel 3-4 defense this year which is suits a guy like Daniels game. Worthy can play both roles but IMO he's more geared as a base 3-4 DE.

Pack_Attack_4 · 05-08-2012, 04:11 PM

Charles Woodson is willing to play either safety or cornerback this year, wherever the team needs him. But Woodson sounds like he thinks the Packers still need him more at cornerback.

Woodson said in an interview on ESPN 540 in Milwaukee that he’d be happy to move to safety if that’s where he needs to go, but he’s not sure who would take his place at cornerback.

“I think that it comes down to what the other guys are going to be able to do as far as the cornerback position is concerned,” Woodson said. “If one of those guys can take over that role and make the plays that need to be made at corner . . . with Nick Collins leaving, [and if] they need me to play safety, I’m not opposed to that. But I think that we have to make sure that cornerback position is going to be solidified and we’re comfortable with who is going to be out there at the corner.”

It remains to be seen whether second-round rookie Casey Hayward is ready to start at cornerback as a rookie, but Woodson said he was thrilled the Packers used their first six draft picks on defense.

“Last year, the way it went down and how poorly defensively we played,” Woodson said, “it was evident that we needed some extra push. So I was very excited.”

SuperPacker · 05-08-2012, 04:16 PM

It was annoying when Woodson was saying that it was nice for us to forget about BAP. He musn't understand what BAP is.

Other people are saying it as well and it really pisses me off.

princefielder28 · 05-08-2012, 05:03 PM

With Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Casey Hayward, and Davon House behind Woodson I think it'll be in our defense's best interest to have either Hayward or House on the field with Woodson in nickel situations over having Peprah on the field

TimmG6376 · 05-09-2012, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cvv84

Right. I believe it was Thompson who said that we're basically running a nickel 3-4 defense this year which is suits a guy like Daniels game. Worthy can play both roles but IMO he's more geared as a base 3-4 DE.

Yeah, there are definitely some mixed signals though. Shortly after the season both McCarthy and Capers made public comments indicating that they perhaps used that package too much this past season. They stated that they wanted to play more base 3-4 this season. That doesn't really seem to match with the defensive linemen they drafted though. Perhaps after further review they concluded that it wasn't so much the nickel package that was the issue, but rather the players in that package.

In reality if the offense continues to put up numbers at the pace they did last season they won't have an option other than to play a lot of nickel again because teams will be throwing to catch up/keep up.

Pack_Attack_4 · 05-09-2012, 12:51 PM

I really think our D is gonna be alot better this year n i like the 2-4-5. keep Raji n Pickett on first n second down and putt Wothly n Daniels on third down, Now with Caly n Perry hopefully we get the pass rush we need. I really dont wanna see Woodson move to Safety he does soo much in the slot he can blitz, hes a solid tackler and hes still one of the better cover guys on our team, I really think thats the best spot for him to make the big plays we need on D.