2013 Pass Rushers - Page 3

ATLDirtyBirds · 05-10-2012, 11:16 AM

Dion Jordan is the person I've seen the second most. First game I watched was against Washington, and he really didn't look very physical. Good hand usage a nice little rip move, and impressive flexibility for his size. I thought he just ate up a slow footed right tackle, and wasn't overly impressed.

But if you can, (I don't know if it is on YouTube, I got it from another draft site) watch his game against Arizona. So impressive. Extremely active hands, variety of moves, knew how to disengage, etc. Needs to bulk up and stay lower in the run game, but I'm extremely impressed with this kid.

TuckNole · 05-10-2012, 04:49 PM

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Yah, he looks it.

By the way, my dislike for Brandon Jenkins still stands. He still plays small, gets driven back, doesn't look to have even functional strength, and honestly, once he's locked onto an OL, he's screwed, no hand use to get around the OT and not enough strength to just pure bull rush him.

You must have watched 2010 tape. Vastly improved in all those area in 2011. Still, I like Carradine and Werner's upsides more.

TuckNole · 05-10-2012, 04:52 PM

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^^ I just don't trust FSU. I really thought Brown would be a stud but not so much.

That makes no sense considering it is an entirely different coaching regime, S&C program, player development plan etc.

Everette Brown had zero coaching his entire career at school (his position coach was a Bowden family friend who was fired with Bowden and has not found employment in coaching since then to give you a sense). That is not the case with FSU's players now.

Duffman57 · 05-10-2012, 05:41 PM

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You must have watched 2010 tape. Vastly improved in all those area in 2011. Still, I like Carradine and Werner's upsides more.

Watched a couple of his games this year. He improved in those areas a bit, but still was not good at it at all.

And it seems like their SC coach still sucks, because their prospects consistantly have lacked even functional playing strength, whether it be OL, DL or LB, they all just look like they can't hang in even college games.

SenorGato · 05-10-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TuckNole

That makes no sense considering it is an entirely different coaching regime, S&C program, player development plan etc.

Everette Brown had zero coaching his entire career at school (his position coach was a Bowden family friend who was fired with Bowden and has not found employment in coaching since then to give you a sense). That is not the case with FSU's players now.

Makes some sense considering they haven't pumped out anything of significance yet.

It'll be great if things turn arouns next year because Jenkins and that JC DE are interesting.

TuckNole · 05-13-2012, 01:40 AM

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Watched a couple of his games this year. He improved in those areas a bit, but still was not good at it at all.

And it seems like their SC coach still sucks, because their prospects consistantly have lacked even functional playing strength, whether it be OL, DL or LB, they all just look like they can't hang in even college games.

FSU had a dominating defense this year, that very easily imposed its will on other teams offensive lines, including OU, Miami, UF, and ND, all teams who had future NFL players on their lines. Go read Shakin the Southland, the Clemson blog, where they talk about how jealous they are of FSU's new S&C program.

In terms of prospects, Jimbo has been the HC for 2 years. The first kids who benefited from the new player development plans haven't even entered the draft yet.

TuckNole · 05-13-2012, 01:44 AM

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Makes some sense considering they haven't pumped out anything of significance yet.

The regime change just happened 2 years ago and there are barely any seniors the last 2 years. What exactly would be expecting?

ATLDirtyBirds · 05-14-2012, 07:16 AM

I've seen 3 tapes so far. Jarvis Jones needs a few other moves. If he could bulk up a bit, and add a little more to his arsenal, he'd be a terror.

SenorGato · 05-14-2012, 08:15 AM

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The regime change just happened 2 years ago and there are barely any seniors the last 2 years. What exactly would be expecting?

That's convenient.