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Old 05-12-2012, 01:25 PM    (permalink
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cole absolutely belongs up there. He's probably 5 behind Allen, JPP, Peppers and Mario
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From reading this thread a lot of people seem to be overlooking players like James Ihedigbo, Brandon Deaderick, Kyle Love, Rob Ninkovich, Tracey White, Sterling Moore, Kyle Arrington, Jermaine Cunningham, Jeff Tarpinian etc

And to me that is more insulting than people overlooking Trent Cole

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cole absolutely belongs up there. He's probably 5 behind Allen, JPP, Peppers and Mario
I'd put him behind those as well. I love me some Cole but he's not better than those 4 imo.
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The fact that he hasn't made a single list yet shows me just how underrated this guy is. I'm good with that.

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Many may think I am biased, but Mr. Long is one of the top 5 DE in the league.
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I don't consider him a top 5 DE at all. This year was his 1st year of double digit sacks. Other than that he has been average. I think he is good, but nothing more after that.
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You guys do know that London Fletcher plays in a 3-4 right? Or does it not matter what postion they actually play?
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Looking at the first page and trying to figure out when did Sean Lee and Darryl Washington(really) become better than David Harris, as 3-4 ILBs go. Harris never gets any love and its ashame because he's hella good.
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The fact that he hasn't made a single list yet shows me just how underrated this guy is. I'm good with that.

And he never will....which is just fine. Hopefully that makes him easier to re-sign after the season as well.
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From reading this thread a lot of people seem to be overlooking players like James Ihedigbo, Brandon Deaderick, Kyle Love, Rob Ninkovich, Tracey White, Sterling Moore, Kyle Arrington, Jermaine Cunningham, Jeff Tarpinian etc
El Oh El. You think those guys are being slighted in a thread about top 5 players at their spots? Ohmagawd. Homer much?
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El Oh El. You think those guys are being slighted in a thread about top 5 players at their spots? Ohmagawd. Homer much?
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic, you just missed it. Completely.
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Jonathan Babineaux should be in the top 5 4-3 DT's. And Grimes and Samuel are easily two of the top 5 CB's in the NFL. no other corners had under a 5.00 YPA allowed last year.
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Looking at the first page and trying to figure out when did Sean Lee and Darryl Washington(really) become better than David Harris, as 3-4 ILBs go. Harris never gets any love and its ashame because he's hella good.
I was thinking the same thing but choose not to comment on him as a Jets player, but I agree. I personally think he is exceptional. He can pretty much do everything you require; inside run, outside run, blitz, coverage, be physical, leadership, let his play do that talking (on this team that is worth noting. I honestly don't even know what his voice sounds like).

I haven't seen much of Daryl Washington, but Sean Lee I think is very good, and commented on in my last post.
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For anyone leaving Brian Cushing out of your top 5 ILB's, I respect your opinion but you're wrong and I hate you.
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go away scar, nobody misses your homerism.

I wouldn't rank Samuel a top 5 corner because I like my corners to be able to at least pretend to tackle.

and if he's an eagle, you don't put his name there.
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I honestly can't believe Brandon Carr is making any top 5 list. He wasn't even the best corner on the Chiefs, Brandon Flowers was, and it wasn't close. Ugh. If Carr was still a Chief he'd be nowhere on any top 5 lists, but because he's a Cowboy he's a top 5 corner?

Also, my boy Derrick Johsnon should be getting a lot more love for 3-4 ILBs. Just sayin.
Yeah, I didn't get that either. I know some people were down on Flowers a couple games last year, but Carr never came close to closing the gap.

But he's a Cowboy and now he is top 10? Yikes.

Also, as much as I hate it, DJ deserves consideration. He's gone from a solid/unspectacular OLB to a big player at ILB.

On a homer note, what does Tommy Kelly have to do to get mentioned even once in this thread? He has the most sacks from the DT position over the past two years and he is a pocket disrupting animal.
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There is a ton of talent at 34 ILB right now. Its hard to squeeze in the top 5.
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Harris has always been criminally underrated, even during his Michigan days.
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Jonathan Babineaux should be in the top 5 4-3 DT's. And Grimes and Samuel are easily two of the top 5 CB's in the NFL. no other corners had under a 5.00 YPA allowed last year.
Come on now, this is getting ridiculous. Just like Thomas Decoud is a top 10 safety right now right? To say Grimes and Samuel are easily two of the top 5 corners makes you one of the biggest homers on the board. I'd say both readily deserve a spot in the top 10 (arguable in Samuel's case) but you go way overboard on this. A top 5 corner would not have been traded for a 7th round pick. Babineaux also regressed last season.
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The fact that he hasn't made a single list yet shows me just how underrated this guy is. I'm good with that.

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Looking at the first page and trying to figure out when did Sean Lee and Darryl Washington(really) become better than David Harris, as 3-4 ILBs go. Harris never gets any love and its ashame because he's hella good.
Another problem solved with my list... just saying... again
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