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Old 05-19-2012, 04:00 AM    (permalink
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Way better than people give it credit. Yeah, it lacked Superman beating the crap out of a super villain but it's a damn good character study of Superman and the casting is top notch - with the exception of Kate Bosworth. It's also more faithful to the mythos than I expect Snyder's version will be. In fact, I'd much rather get a sequel to Returns with Superman beating the crap out of a super villain than Snyder rebooting it.
Really? I thought Superman Returns was a terrible, terrible adaption of Superman and his moral code/values. They gave him a son, whom he abandons essentially. That is so a 180 to what Superman stands for. Not to mention he left the Earth with really no explanation at all to the people he chose to protect. Christoper Reeve's Superman would have held a press conference or something.

And Lex Luthor and Superman just really don't have any chemistry at all, unlike in the classic film. Superman barely has any lines actually. We don't get inside his head. His goons stabbing Superman doesn't really have an impact either. Seeing Lex make the same mistakes as he did previously is also a let down. And Lois Lane's article as to "why the world needs Superman"...well that motif only really tells us that we need Superman's powers, not necessarily what he stands for as we see throughout the film.

As a big Superman fan I was very disappointed in the film. It was really a love-letter of a movie to Richard Donner, but it just doesn't work.
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Hopefully Battleship is a success. Maybe then they will finally make a big screen adaptation of Monopoly that we can all quit watching halfway through...
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Yeah returns was a pretty lame movie, it was incredibly boring all the way through.
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Kevin Spacey is the only reason I finished watching Superman Returns.
Other than that, I found the movie incredibly boring
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Hopefully The Man of Steel is a good movie. Nolan is producing it with Goyer writing, so that is a good sign. I like what Snyder did with Watchmen, which stands really good on it's own aside from the source material, although it can be a tad complex for people unfamiliar with the said source material.
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Hopefully The Man of Steel is a good movie. Nolan is producing it with Goyer writing, so that is a good sign. I like what Snyder did with Watchmen, which stands really good on it's own aside from the source material, although it can be a tad complex for people unfamiliar with the said source material.
Goode and Akerman almost killed it for me, but Jackie Earle Haley is really incredible in it. Like, top five performance in a Superhero movie ever.
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Not enough Batman Forever talk in here.



Seal was the best Batman.
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So Khan is in Star Trek 2. I didn't even know this, and knowing it now, it's quite disappointing. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is a classic film, that really doesn't need to be done again with the neo-cast. If this was something like Batman, where the Joker is essentially a very important part of his mythos, that approach is passable. But with Star Trek, the door is so wide open (especially with the end of the first film), Khan isn't necessary. I think it's going to be another action-packed thrill ride, but that isn't necessarily what Star Trek is all about. I understand getting folks to see a movie, but that just seems lazy to me. They are being too safe with the franchise.
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Are you implying that Nicholson in Batman is on the same level as Montaban in Khan? Because that's just a ridiculous notion.
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Are you implying that Nicholson in Batman is on the same level as Montaban in Khan? Because that's just a ridiculous notion.
I meant Batman as a franchise. Not the 1989 film.

Star Trek fans aren't sitting around saying "Man, I hope our favorite villains are in this". That is more in line with superhero films.

Superheroes are a little different. I was saying that villains are a part of superheroes to a much larger extent. This clearly isn't the case with Khan, who doesn't need to be in a Star Trek movie.
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I need help remembering this movie. All I can remember is that there is a trial and that the soldier wielding the M-16 was the one who went missing or something. I also remember one of the witnesses saying he wanted to be a boxer and his nickname would be "night train humphries" or somethng like that. Then he goes and drives into a train head on committing suicide.

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I meant Batman as a franchise. Not the 1989 film.

Star Trek fans aren't sitting around saying "Man, I hope our favorite villains are in this". That is more in line with superhero films.

Superheroes are a little different. I was saying that villains are a part of superheroes to a much larger extent. This clearly isn't the case with Khan, who doesn't need to be in a Star Trek movie.
eh, new cast in the beginning of their time as the crew of the Enterprise....we haven't seen Khan except in that one movie and once in the TV show waaaaay back in the 60s. He is such a popular villain that it is fine to do him again. It's not like there isn't a changed timeline/alternate universe thing going on too in this Star Trek, so they can pretty much do what they want.
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Finally saw The Avengers last week. Was freaking great movie!Pretty had to drag the gf to see though. I can't wait for the second.
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That looks pretty incredible for a teaser trailer. Hopefully its more like Casino Royale which is still one of my favorite action movies.
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Pretty much the same for me. My wife wasn't really a fan of any of the movies leading up to it but she said the Avengers was very good. I liked it as well. The beginning, where they are assembling the entire team is a bit slow and kind of drags on. But other than that, it's a fine movie.
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eh, new cast in the beginning of their time as the crew of the Enterprise....we haven't seen Khan except in that one movie and once in the TV show waaaaay back in the 60s. He is such a popular villain that it is fine to do him again. It's not like there isn't a changed timeline/alternate universe thing going on too in this Star Trek, so they can pretty much do what they want.
I just think it's lazy. Really, they have to have Khan to get people to see the film? Khan has already been done in a fantastic movie before. He's not necessary. I feel the same way about Zod in the upcoming Superman film. We'll see how they both turn out.
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So Khan is in Star Trek 2. I didn't even know this, and knowing it now, it's quite disappointing. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is a classic film, that really doesn't need to be done again with the neo-cast. If this was something like Batman, where the Joker is essentially a very important part of his mythos, that approach is passable. But with Star Trek, the door is so wide open (especially with the end of the first film), Khan isn't necessary. I think it's going to be another action-packed thrill ride, but that isn't necessarily what Star Trek is all about. I understand getting folks to see a movie, but that just seems lazy to me. They are being too safe with the franchise.
So, not knowing a whole lot about the Star Trek universe, when they announced Cumberbatch as the main villain, I wet myself. He is just too awesome for the story/villain to flop.

I'm not sure how they will have him represent Kahn (if all is true), but I'm guessing it won't be like Kahn of old. It will probably be a lot darker and maybe set up the whole Kirk/Kahn relationship. It really does feel like they are going for the whole "Batman Begins" style reboot, which would be awesome if they can pull it off.
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The Avengers held up during my second viewing of it. Hot damn, Prometheus does look awesome. Idris Elba >>>
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I want to see Avengers again. Maybe this weekend. I loved it on the first go 'round
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