Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
I wasn't a big Coples fan to be honest. I liked his size, but he really turned me off with his senior season tape. And I don't think he's all that fast. It's also a curious fit for the Jets 3-4 defense, his best fit is as a pass rusher inside on a 4 man line, like how Tuck lines up inside on 3rd down.
But as a base 3-4 DE, I think he's a little light, and he's not a dominant edge guy either.
I thought Mercilus or Branch would have been perfect for the Jets.
Few things about Coples:
- Did everything they asked him to at UNC. Sure, he admittedly gave a C effort as a senior, but I'd rather he admit it and make it known than keep it secret (therefore being a dick about it).
- The program there cleeeeeearly has some white collar problems that have nothing to do with the players, but CAN (my guess: did) have a negative impact on the individual player and his reputation.
- Played DT very well as a junior, and stood up to double teams both as a DT and as a DE. Created lots of pressure and plays anyway on teh tapes.
- You were just talking about projection...Has the body and length to play at a legit 295-300 without killing the athleticism. That's fine in a 3-4, and both Shaun Ellis and Trevor Pryce have had tons of success as 3-4 DEs who might seem light but aren't. Better length and size potential than both of them as well tbh...
- He moves very well for a guy who can play DT or DE.
- He'll see plenty of time as a DE on a 4 man line, as a DT on a 4 man line, and as a 3-4 DE.
- I don't even think his senior tape is *that* bad. The guy didn't even lose 3 sacks (picked up 10 as a DT!) despite moving positions, losing his coach, and generally playing for a program that was going crazy over the past year.
- Still was the most productive pass rusher of all these guys but Curry (who played in the MAC) in college, and can best pretty much all of them in physical tools.
- KILLED it at the Senior Bowl. Plenty of glowing reports on him, and he gave all the right people trouble that week (Glenn famously, Schwartz I'm sure).
I was stunned at how underrated he started getting to be once Mayock went on his little rant, and once Barron came off the board he was my ideal pick for the Jets. I think 15 teams f'd up. Guys like him don't get out of the top 10, let alone top 15, and he happens to go to one of the best defensive coaching staffs in the league (in a year we'll be saying the best).
I'm not even trying to be a homer about Coples but I legitimately believe all this stuff. I just don't get what's not to like once you apply the context to him as a prospect. He's really the only one of those guys with star potential, and he's with the franchise to help make it happen.